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Thinker Cats

(54 posts)
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 02:50 PM Jul 26

(Jewish Group) A Gaza Cease-fire Isn't Letting Hamas Win. It's Israel's Only Way to Come Out on Top

Hamas isn't just a terror group. It's a movement – rooted in resistance to Israel, driven by ideology, sustained by destruction. But above all, it's a sophisticated propaganda machine that weaponizes information itself. Hamas doesn't seek victory in the conventional sense. It seeks survival, symbolism and story. And it has mastered the art of narrative warfare to ensure any Israeli response generates compelling victim narratives.

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Israel cannot define itself by Hamas' propaganda. It must define itself by its values. And those values are that we leave no one behind.

Gaza has paid a terrible price. Its people see destruction everywhere. Whether they blame Hamas or Israel is secondary. What matters is what comes next. If there's a chance to shape Gaza's future, it begins with an act of conscience now. End the war.


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-24/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-gaza-cease-fire-isnt-letting-hamas-win-its-israels-only-way-to-come-out-on-top/00000198-3bd9-d96b-a5ff-ffd9930f0000?gift=673dfb5b01d7491fbe7216bd60960914
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(Jewish Group) A Gaza Cease-fire Isn't Letting Hamas Win. It's Israel's Only Way to Come Out on Top (Original Post) Thinker Cats Jul 26 OP
As long as Netanyahyu remains in power in Israel, and Hamas remains in power in Gaza, nothing is going to lostincalifornia Jul 26 #1
Well, you could say... Grins Jul 26 #2
Arguing about one sentence of the article Thinker Cats Jul 26 #3
I think there was a different motivation involved, and it wasn't about the article. lostincalifornia Jul 26 #5
No it isn't. Modern Israel was from the UN and British partition as a lostincalifornia Jul 26 #4
That poster is no longer posting. Oopsie Daisy Jul 28 #6
Just as well. lostincalifornia Jul 29 #7

lostincalifornia

(4,228 posts)
1. As long as Netanyahyu remains in power in Israel, and Hamas remains in power in Gaza, nothing is going to
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jul 26

change. Neither Netanyahyu nor Hamas want to give up power, regardless of the results, even if that meant the destruction of either one.

Grins

(8,761 posts)
2. Well, you could say...
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jul 26

Isn’t Israel also “a movement – rooted in resistance to Palestine , driven by ideology, sustained by destruction?”

Bibi - and the Likud - have become the ugly face of Israel.

 

Thinker Cats

(54 posts)
3. Arguing about one sentence of the article
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jul 26

We could argue about one sentence in the article, but I don't think it would be productive. If you've moved beyond that sentence and read the entire article, great.

lostincalifornia

(4,228 posts)
4. No it isn't. Modern Israel was from the UN and British partition as a
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 06:17 PM
Jul 26

Jewish State.

This is the Jewish group and you really shouldn’t try to reframe history to your own bias.


Oopsie Daisy

(6,569 posts)
6. That poster is no longer posting.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jul 28

I think the colloquial expression is that they're "enjoying a pizza."

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