The whole kit and kabootel is an illusion.

"Why does anything exist?" Brilliant physicists and philosophers have written treatises and books trying to answer that question. Years ago, when the topic came up on DU, one DUer wrote that to consider a scenario of nothing existent (i.e., no mass, no energy, and no space for them to occupy) is troubling enough. However, trying to imagine a scenario wherein there is no history boggles the mind even more so.

Now can science explain/ describe a world without 'consciousness'?
I'll wait. I have time.

A question directed to all, not directed to poster

Biocentrism by Robert Lanza.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=biocentrism&crid=IKENT79A5Z0C&sprefix=biocentrism%2Caps%2C122&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

and the American was the first.

Pretty zenny if you ask me.

Going to have to rethink.

And then I read that that is how Tarot cards work. The layout of the cards comes from you and you already know what is going to happen in the "future" .

It gets really complicated. .

You're a hoopy frood who really knows where his towel is.

...now that we have just discovered it, we've known it along!

We might conclude that the universe is a stranger place than we have sometimes been led to suspect and that the amount and type of strangeness each of us can tolerate depends, to some extent, on prior commitments. But the universe is what it is anyway.

...it is stranger than you can think". -- Harlow Shapley

as to think what nobody has yet thought concerning that which everybody sees."

― Arthur Schopenhauer

But a good angle for woo peddlers. They're already into quantum this and quantum that without having a quantum of knowledge of what quantum actually means.

Wonder how much time it took for the guy to come up with it, and how much grant money was drained off in imagining it?

from the point of view of human experience ... Almost completely irrelevant.

We still have children - and children (at least it is desperately hoped) grow from tadpoles with tails, over time, into beings that approximate adults. And there is little 'rational' about trying to make that grand arc - all a matter of 'perception' - or equivalency. Tadpoles are not adult beings - not matter how much we natter on - and insist on posing 'deeper' questions.

And now we can all go play in the street ...

such concepts, but the fact that gravity doesn't exist according to Quantum Theory makes no difference in whether jumping off a high cliff is a good idea.

(Apparently it's the curvature of the universe that causes what we think of as gravity, I think is the simple explanation.)

that "time" is something we made up back when we first started agriculture. First came the seasons, and then they were subdivided into months and so forth. Then they invented various types of clocks.

So a lightyear is just our perception of distance based on our perception of time.

Simplistic, I know.

Trains had to run on a timetable. That's when the concept of time zones was invented. They are also kind of random - Michigan is in the eastern time zone, so it's always light there later in the day. But they get the same amount of actual light as the easternmost states in the same time zone.

If you're a hunter-gatherer, seasons matter.

Past v present also matters, even if your religion allows the past to poke into the present (or the future to poke into the present).

That idea comes out of quantum physics also,
and it makes a lot of sense to me.

this news more complicated. Anyway, I feel no more enlightened.

... didn't happen in the Late Cretaceous period?

When something digs up the evidence of human civilization a few million years from now - I hope the first thing they find are some perfectly preserved lemon bars from the missus' kitchen. They'll think we were a very advanced life form.😋

We view time as we do for our convenience.

.... now on an infinite plane of dark matter that we can't see. Our universe is an ever expanding home of matter and energy in which our nano second of a lifetime exists.

And in that universe the Cleveland Browns will never win a super bowl.

I feel both of your pain.

We got the best QB in the league, there's always hope! And, an emotional roller coaster.

#BillsMafia

#GoBills

Are we doomed to forever dive, wrinkled, into the center of the spool, only to emerge from the outside of the spool and wobble over the rollers and heads again?

[ Edit: Ooops! I appear to have played the tape backwards. We are doomed. Sorry universe. ]

beg to differ.

If time is an illusion, so is entropy.

Maybe our perception of time is an illusion - but the underlying changes that produce that illusion are IMO, very real.

or that time is more a function of something else, not that it is completely disconnected.

CHAOS or ORDER

Hee hee hee

I'll know my time is nearly up.

Running late - gotta go!

But this article is like Dr Oz and science. It’s click bait and uses easily misunderstood terms (e.g. it’s not a scientific theory, it’s a hypothesis and if you read common science groups etc they are not even talking about this because there is a lot of work yet to do to try and dispute hypothesis.)

This hypothesis faces significant challenges, particularly in how to empirically test these concepts. Despite its implications it remains in its early stages of development.

The Universe Is Not Only Queerer Than We Suppose, But Queerer Than We Can Suppose
~ J. B. S. Haldane

So that’s just a quantum interaction?

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particles and the energy fields that produce them

and Time is Gravity.

It was actually convincing.

Einstein proved the notion that time (specifically duration) is dependent upon one's frame of reference, and that an accelerating frame of reference was indistinguishable from gravity. From the perspective of a photon going AT the speed of light, there is no time - everything that happens has happened and will happen. The big wildcard is entropy.

Entanglement may very well be tied to the fact that many processes, such as electrons moving through quantum orbital states, emit or absorb light as part of the process (this is how laser's work). If light effectively is timeless, this may very well explain quantum entanglement if the same electron became bound to another atom (or similar quantum well) at a different point in its trajectory. My college quantum physics classes were a LOOONG time ago, but it's an intriguing notion nonetheless.

is to throw yourself at the ground... and miss.

Thus proving that gravity and time are mere constructs of our quantum imaginations.

Best definition I've ever heard.

begins with the division of the One into two.

One's and zeros – that's all it takes to generate just about anything; all possibilities, including all dimensions including time, are created via division/distinction.

There's nothing "illusory" about time as described by the research. Rather, the authors apply an account of motion and time as emerging jointly from a mathematical model of a toy universe that does not explicitly include time as a parameter of the model.

It's interesting stuff, but it would be equally true to say they discovered motion is illusory. What they're doing is neither; rather, they are contributing to a thread of research about time and dynamics that avoids some infelicities and pitfalls associated with theories where time is an explicit parameter in theory.

Or the Tralfamadorians.

Space exists so everything doesn't happen to you.

It's also money

Maybe they could turn the hell around and go back in time.

That diet is much more important than I realized as I get older. I mean the basics, nothing special, but just eating regularly, balanced diet, a one a day Vito, then basic stretching and some light exercise. This all seems to help and it’s not a lot. I have some arthritis stuff going on and it gets up a head of steam if I do not do above. I take aspirin. Nothing more for the most part.
Hope you can find some relief.