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milestogo

(20,483 posts)
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:06 PM 10 hrs ago

Rare genetic mutation lets some people thrive on just 4 hours of shut-eye

A newly identified mutation helps super-sleepers get by on just four to six hours of shut-eye per night, while the rest of us need around eight hours. Researchers described the SIK3-N783Y mutation in a new study after testing it on sleep-deprived inbred mice.

Some lucky people have rare genetic mutations that enable them to feel well-rested after just four hours of sleep, while the rest of us need around eight hours to function. Now, researchers have identified one of these mutations, named SIK3-N783Y, in a human super-sleeper. The team then studied the mutation in genetically modified mice and found that the mice carrying this mutation also got less shut-eye, according to a new study.

The newly identified mutation is one of several that researchers have linked to shorter sleep patterns. Scientists hope that by understanding the genetics of natural short sleepers, who seem to thrive on less sleep, they can develop better treatments for sleep disorders. "Our bodies continue to work when we go to bed," detoxifying themselves and repairing damage, study co-author Ying-Hui Fu, a neuroscientist and geneticist at the University of California, San Francisco, told Nature. "These people [natural short sleepers], all these functions our bodies are doing while we are sleeping, they can just perform at a higher level than we can."

There are a variety of negative effects associated with not getting enough sleep, from feeling sluggish and being more forgetful to an increased risk of heart problems. The amount of sleep we need varies as we age, but most adults require around seven to nine hours each night to be at their best. Those with the natural short sleep trait, however, seem to function fine with less. A natural short sleeper requires around four to six hours of sleep per night. Not only do they thrive on less sleep than the rest of the human population, but they also tend to feel worse if they sleep for longer than their normal hours, according to the study.

Previous studies have identified four genes associated with short sleep and five relevant mutations within those genes. The newly identified mutation affects a fifth gene, Sik3, which has previously been linked to sleepiness. Researchers tested the mutation by giving it to lab mice. They found that mice with the mutation slept around 31 minutes less than those without it, and 54 minutes less following a period of sleep deprivation, which the researchers induced by gently handling the mice, according to the study.

Read more: https://www.livescience.com/health/sleep/rare-genetic-mutation-lets-some-people-thrive-on-just-4-hours-of-shut-eye

The researchers published their findings Monday (May 5) in the journal PNAS.
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erronis

(19,498 posts)
1. You know, this might be one of those cases where studies in mice don't carry forward well to humans.
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:18 PM
10 hrs ago

IANB (I ain't no biologist), but mice tend to be hyper-vigilant given they are highly-prized delicacies in the prey-predator world. I'll be they have a lot of much shorter spans of lying under the blankets than humans like.

underpants

(190,470 posts)
2. The US Army standard has been 4 hours for a long time
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:20 PM
10 hrs ago

You have to be allowed 4 hours in a day to sleep. They don’t have to be 4 four straight either I don’t think.

NNadir

(35,781 posts)
4. As a chronic insomniac I have noted that we fall into classes.
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:45 PM
9 hrs ago

There are those who can't sleep and don't care that they can't and those who can't sleep but are miserable as a result.

I generally fall into the second category.

The upside to chronic insomnia of both types is that one can get a lot of work done, at least if one is disciplined.

Warpy

(113,340 posts)
5. There's a genetic basis for a lot of stuff people blame each other for
Fri May 9, 2025, 02:51 PM
7 hrs ago

like being on the autism spectrum or being a problem drinker headed for alcoholism. They're slowly identifying the genetic basis for a lot of this stuff.

It's not a moral failing to need that 8+ hours of sleep a night. It's not moral superiority to be able to get by with four or so.

Now we know.

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