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usonian

(20,329 posts)
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 12:41 AM Aug 9

Happy 100th birthday, quantum mechanics!

https://www.quantamagazine.org/its-a-mess-a-brain-bending-trip-to-quantum-theorys-100th-birthday-party-20250808/


One hundred years to the month had passed since a 23-year-old postdoc named Werner Heisenberg was driven by a case of hay fever to Helgoland, a barren, windswept island in the North Sea. There, Heisenberg completed a calculation that would become the heart of quantum mechanics, a radical new theory of the atomic and subatomic world.

...

The morning after the banquet in Hamburg, the gathered physicists (and a handful of journalists) traveled by ferry to Helgoland to discuss where things stand a century after the theory’s birth.


Physicists need dramamine, too.




Nice.

Enjoy the tour of Quantum Theory.





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Happy 100th birthday, quantum mechanics! (Original Post) usonian Aug 9 OP
Quantum Mechanics ultralite001 Aug 9 #1
God does not play dice - Albert Einstein. speak easy Aug 9 #2
The brain and quantum computation jfz9580m Wednesday #3
My journey into quantum physics ended with first year of grad school. usonian Wednesday #5
I managed without ever taking a Q Phys Class jfz9580m Wednesday #6
This is a fun article. hunter Wednesday #4

jfz9580m

(15,955 posts)
3. The brain and quantum computation
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:34 AM
Wednesday

I found this article today. I don’t get it at all. I frowned over it and am now giving up (but I keep these in my journal since it’s easier sometimes than finding stuff on my own comp ):

https://phys.org/news/2022-10-brains-quantum.html

New research suggests our brains use quantum computation


They adapted an idea developed to prove the existence of quantum gravity to explore the human brain and its workings.

He said, "We adapted an idea, developed for experiments to prove the existence of quantum gravity, whereby you take known quantum systems, which interact with an unknown system. If the known systems entangle, then the unknown must be a quantum system, too. It circumvents the difficulties to find measuring devices for something we know nothing about.

"For our experiments we used proton spins of 'brain water' as the known system. 'Brain water' builds up naturally as fluid in our brains and the proton spins can be measured using MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging). Then, by using a specific MRI design to seek entangled spins, we found MRI signals that resemble heartbeat evoked potentials, a form of EEG signals. EEGs measure electrical brain currents.

Electrophysiological potentials like the heartbeat evoked potentials are normally not detectable with MRI and the scientists believe they could only observe them because the nuclear proton spins in the brain were entangled.

Dr. Kerskens added, "If entanglement is the only possible explanation here then that would mean that brain processes must have interacted with the nuclear spins, mediating the entanglement between the nuclear spins. As a result, we can deduce that those brain functions must be quantum.

"Because these brain functions were also correlated to short-term memory performance and conscious awareness, it is likely that those quantum processes are an important part of our cognitive and conscious brain functions.

"Quantum brain processes could explain why we can still outperform supercomputers when it comes to unforeseen circumstances, decision making, or learning something new.


I know next to nothing about MRIs/quantum entanglement so that can’t help.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging]

usonian

(20,329 posts)
5. My journey into quantum physics ended with first year of grad school.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:39 AM
Wednesday

So, all I can venture is the uncertainty I feel before making a decision, and there's some evidence that the brain decides before I'm conscious of the decision. "Think" about that.

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/03/our-brains-reveal-our-choices-before-were-even-aware-of-them--st

Outperform supercomputers? Can't say. I've banned them in my home.
My last month's electric bill just arrived in my mailbox, and it's super-sized.

jfz9580m

(15,955 posts)
6. I managed without ever taking a Q Phys Class
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:28 PM
Wednesday

Didn’t come up in Engg and while physics ends up being a big part of my research, I avoided difficult courses like Q Phys entirely.

I read the pop stuff sometimes though because unlike the driveling AI hype (which the rare AI scientist here or there aside seems on par with crypto or bschool psych studies in how bogus it is), those do seem to be areas where real movement is ongoing.

Since I am a gloomy and skeptical sort of person, I see it as a new avenue for new age religions to use to exploit a traumatized general public as it tries to grapple with complicated scientific concepts in an ever worsening, hopeless world with constantly deteriorating education systems.

hunter

(39,889 posts)
4. This is a fun article.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:37 AM
Wednesday

Personally, the Copenhagen interpretation irks me but I don't think we have to get our underwear all twisted in knots seeking some more "classical" deterministic model of the universe. Uncertainty doesn't frighten me.

My personal opinions and intuitions are useless of course, mere noise, since I'm unpracticed in most of the heavy math used to describe this stuff.

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