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Rhiannon12866

(241,194 posts) Wed May 28, 2025, 11:53 PM May 28

Lawrence: 'Worldwide humiliation' for Trump as court rules his tariff 'madness' is unconstitutional - The Last Word MSNBC

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how a new ruling from the Court of International Trade proves “Donald Trump's attempt to use our international trade balance of payments with countries around the world as a reason for a president to impose tariffs is illegal and unconstitutional.” - Aired on 05/28/2025.

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Lawrence: 'Worldwide humiliation' for Trump as court rules his tariff 'madness' is unconstitutional - The Last Word MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 May 28 OP

Soundly put to rest. We are slowly but surely getting back to sanity again on some of these issues Deuxcents May 29 #1

I do wish that this decision came sooner, to avoid the controversy, but actually it came just in time. Whew! Rhiannon12866 May 29 #2

Patience is needed with the court system but I'm with you..I wish it worked sooner than it does Deuxcents May 29 #3

And... what if the 34-times convicted felon just ignores the judgement? Justice matters. May 29 #4

doj filed a Notice of Appeal tonight scipan May 29 #5

FYI on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit pat_k May 29 #7

Leonard Leo hates tariffs, and the SCOTUS 6 owe their positions to Leo. SunSeeker May 29 #8

Thanks for the insight! pat_k May 29 #10

Every night, the felon feels Lawrence's righteous verbal beatdown. ancianita May 29 #6

It's a thing of beauty. SunSeeker May 29 #9

Didn't TFG sue Lawrence once?? Rhiannon12866 May 29 #11

He threatened a suit in 2019 unless Lawrence retracted and apologized, which he did. But Lawrence learned. ancianita May 29 #13

Lawrence made me smile last night LetMyPeopleVote May 29 #12

Deuxcents

(23,649 posts)

1. Soundly put to rest. We are slowly but surely getting back to sanity again on some of these issues

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Thu May 29, 2025, 12:17 AM

May 29

Rhiannon12866

(241,194 posts)

2. I do wish that this decision came sooner, to avoid the controversy, but actually it came just in time. Whew!

Reply to Deuxcents (Reply #1)

Thu May 29, 2025, 12:22 AM

May 29

Deuxcents

(23,649 posts)

3. Patience is needed with the court system but I'm with you..I wish it worked sooner than it does

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Thu May 29, 2025, 12:25 AM

May 29

Justice matters.

(8,788 posts)

4. And... what if the 34-times convicted felon just ignores the judgement?

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Thu May 29, 2025, 12:26 AM

May 29

Lemme guess...

crickets?

scipan

(2,925 posts)

5. doj filed a Notice of Appeal tonight

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Thu May 29, 2025, 01:01 AM

May 29

Not a lawyer, and Lawrence is, but I still want to wait and see what happens tomorrow. He did use the word "exclusive" when talking about the powers of this court.

pat_k

(11,550 posts)

7. FYI on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit

Reply to scipan (Reply #5)

Thu May 29, 2025, 01:37 AM

May 29

Last edited Thu May 29, 2025, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)

AI Overview

Subject Matter Jurisdiction:
The Federal Circuit has nationwide jurisdiction over certain types of appeals, including those from the U.S. Court of International Trade.

Specialized Jurisdiction:
The Federal Circuit is unique because its jurisdiction is based on the subject matter of the case, rather than geography.

Appeals from the U.S. Court of International Trade:
The Federal Circuit hears appeals from final decisions of the U.S. Court of International Trade.

FWIW, there are no Trump appointees on this court

Kimberly A. Moore, Chief Circuit Judge (Reagan)
Pauline Newman, Circuit Judge (Reagan)
Haldane Robert Mayer, Circuit Judge (Reagan)
S. Jay Plager, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Alan D. Lourie, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Raymond C. Clevenger, III, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
Alvin A. Schall, Circuit Judge (H.W. Bush)
William C. Bryson, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Richard Linn, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Timothy B. Dyk, Circuit Judge (Clinton)
Sharon Prost, Circuit Judge (G.W. Bush)
Jimmie V. Reyna, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Evan J. Wallach, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Richard G. Taranto, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Raymond T. Chen, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Todd M. Hughes, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Kara F. Stoll, Circuit Judge (Obama)
Tiffany P. Cunningham, Circuit Judge (Biden)
Leonard P. Stark, Circuit Judge (Biden)

As per a VOX article:

These higher courts could potentially reveal fairly soon whether they think the tariffs are legal. In an order accompanying the trade court’s decision, the court announces that “within 10 calendar days necessary administrative orders to effectuate the permanent injunction shall issue.” So, if no higher court steps in, Trump’s tariffs will cease to exist very soon.

The 47 regime will undoubtedly try to jump over the Federal Circuit and go straight to SCOTUS with an emergency appeal. I don't know if they will get away with it. Stay tuned.

SunSeeker

(56,501 posts)

8. Leonard Leo hates tariffs, and the SCOTUS 6 owe their positions to Leo.

Reply to pat_k (Reply #7)

Thu May 29, 2025, 02:43 AM

May 29

So there is hope they will do the right thing even if they do it for the wrong reasons.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit

pat_k

(11,550 posts)

10. Thanks for the insight!

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #8)

Thu May 29, 2025, 02:55 AM

May 29

ancianita

(41,430 posts)

6. Every night, the felon feels Lawrence's righteous verbal beatdown.

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Thu May 29, 2025, 01:02 AM

May 29

SunSeeker

(56,501 posts)

9. It's a thing of beauty.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #6)

Thu May 29, 2025, 02:45 AM

May 29

Love me a righteous Lawrence rant!

Rhiannon12866

(241,194 posts)

11. Didn't TFG sue Lawrence once??

Reply to ancianita (Reply #6)

Thu May 29, 2025, 08:12 AM

May 29

That's his solution for everything, have somebody else take care of it...

And I sure agree, even though this news just broke, Lawrence was brilliant, handled it eloquently - as usual!