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Ocelot II

(125,517 posts)
1. He's got a big mad, all right. That can't be good for his blood pressure.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:20 AM
Yesterday


How dare they screw up my chance at the Nobel Peace Prize which Obama got only on account of DEI and I totally deserve for negotiating a cease-fire in a war I helped start?

IronLionZion

(49,235 posts)
6. Pakistan nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:34 AM
Yesterday

because they think that will curry favor or something

Pakistan nominates Trump for Nobel Peace Prize, praising ‘stellar statesmanship’
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/21/asia/pakistan-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-intl

Ocelot II

(125,517 posts)
7. They might have changed their mind, though.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:44 AM
Yesterday
Pakistan condemned on Sunday the strikes ordered on its neighbour Iran by Donald Trump, a day after Islamabad had said it would nominate the U.S. President for the Nobel Peace Prize. Pakistan on Sunday said Trump's decision to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities violated international law and that diplomacy was the only way to resolve the Iran crisis.

“The unprecedented escalation of tension and violence, owing to ongoing aggression against Iran is deeply disturbing. Any further escalation of tensions will have severely damaging implications for the region and beyond,” Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said.

In Pakistan’s biggest city, Karachi, thousands marched in protest against the U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran.
A large American flag with a picture of Trump on it was placed on the road for demonstrators to walk over. The protesters shouted out chants against America, Israel and Pakistan’s regional enemy India.

Pakistan on Saturday said it was nominating Trump as "a genuine peacemaker" for his role in bringing a four-day conflict with India to an end last month. It said he had “demonstrated great strategic foresight and stellar statesmanship”.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistan-condemns-trumps-bombing-iran-day-after-nominating-him-peace-prize-2025-06-22/

India says Trump had nothing to do with ending the conflict with Pakistan.

Trump had said last month that the nuclear-armed South Asian neighbours agreed to a ceasefire after talks mediated by the U.S., and that the hostilities ended after he urged the countries to focus on trade instead of war.

However, Modi told Trump in a phone call late on Tuesday that the ceasefire was achieved through talks between the Indian and Pakistani militaries and not U.S. mediation, according to India's most senior diplomat, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri.
https://archive.is/cDFmL

Attilatheblond

(6,420 posts)
2. The world seems less inclined to take his toddler tantrums as seriously as 34% of Americans do
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

Just think how whiny and mad he will be when the NATO members snicker at him and then put him on IGNORE.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,210 posts)
3. Maddow Blog-Trump drops f-bomb as Israel and Iran face accusations of ceasefire violations
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:29 AM
Yesterday

The president is getting a timely lesson in “Middle East crises are complicated,” which seems like the sort of thing he should’ve already known.

Trump, last night: Israel/Iran ceasefire will likely “go forever”
Trump, this morning: Israel/Iran “don’t know what the f--- they’re doing”

He’s getting a timely “the Middle East is complicated” lesson, which seems like the sort of the thing he should’ve already known. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-24T12:49:55.436Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-drops-f-bomb-israel-iran-face-accusations-ceasefire-violations-rcna214698

Soon after, Trump spoke briefly to reporters at the White House, where his frustrations appeared to boil over. NBC News reported:

Trump said that both Iran and Israel violated the ceasefire he announced yesterday. ‘I think they both violated it,’ he said. ‘I’m not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn’t reign people back. I don’t like the fact that Israel went out this morning at all, and I’m going to see if I can stop it.’

The Republican added, “We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f--- they’re doing. Do you understand that?”

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lsdyzwk6p225



As part of the same Q&A, Trump accused both countries of behaving in a “ridiculous” way.

So to summarize, roughly half a day after the American president said the Israel/Iran ceasefire would likely “go forever,” and there was no reason to believe Israel and Iran “will ever be shooting at each other again,” Trump was reduced to dropping an f-bomb on the White House South Lawn as his frustrations boiled over.

The point is not to chide the president for having a potty mouth. Rather, the point is that he really ought to understand by now that premature triumphalism is folly, and assuming the complexities of Middle East conflicts can be resolved through the force of his will is absurd.

Or put another way, Trump is getting a timely lesson in “Middle East crises are complicated,” which seems like the sort of thing he should’ve already known.

Ocelot II

(125,517 posts)
5. "Premature triumphalism" - like that old "Mission Accomplished" stunt.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:32 AM
Yesterday

We saw how that worked out.

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