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Related: About this forumU.S. Keeps Covering Up Horrors of Atomic Bombing: Greg Mitchell
This week marks 80 years since the first use of nuclear weapons in war, when the United States dropped a pair of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August 6 and 9, 1945. Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed in the bombings. Many died instantly, and many others died more slowly from severe burns and radiation sickness. Some estimates put the combined death toll over 250,000 killed. We speak with veteran journalist Greg Mitchell, whose new documentary, "streaming at PBS.org":https://www.pbs.org/video/the-atomic-... and airing on PBS, reexamines a remarkable episode in the U.S. occupation of Japan after the end of World War II, when the U.S. military held an all-star football game in the ruins of Nagasaki, reflecting what Mitchell calls a "careless" and "heartless" U.S. attitude. The Atomic Bowl is "horrifying history" that is worth reexamining, says Mitchell, because "there is not a real taboo on using nuclear weapons, because so many historians, so many in the media continue to support the use of the atomic bomb against Hiroshima and even Nagasaki."
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Hekate
(99,021 posts)
with images of what The Bomb (as we called it then) can do to human flesh and bone.
Anybody younger than me who remembers images from the Vietnam war? Remember that screaming little girl running naked down a road trying to escape the napalm eating her skin?
Yeah, like that and worse.
I didnt know about the US military holding a football game, but otherwise, if there was a coverup it was a damn inefficient one. There was photojournalism, there were books, there were what-if tv movies Im quite sure we were not told everything, but what we did know scared us shitless.
Wonder Why
(6,060 posts)Of course, remember that after years of take-no-prisoners fighting, massive fire bombings by the U.S., the Rape of Nanking and numerous other atrocities by the Japanese (still being officially ignored in Japan), estimated millions of Japanese and 100,000 American deaths if there were an invasion of the Home Islands, the American soldiers played a "careless" and "heartless" football game. In the course of the War and its aftermaths, this incident is not even a blip.
What would have happened had the Japanese won? Or even if a peace treaty was signed with both sides just keeping what they had at the end of 1944?
There was no taboo. In the '50s and '60s we all knew of the horrors of Hiroshima as it was brought up over and over in schools, in having practice drills, in discussions about a new nuclear war, on TV, in movies, everywhere. I remember those days even if some forgot them or were too young or just were more interested in talking about free love than the horrors of nuclear deaths.
Kid Berwyn
(21,814 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 7, 2025, 01:06 PM - Edit history (4)
Guy was editor of Editor & Publisher and quit the best source on the business when the mag got bought. He chose integrity over cash.
ETA: It wasnt Murdoch who bought them out, it was the Carlyle Group.
ETA3: It was Carlyle Group, via Duncan-McIntosh, tied to Murdoch and Carlyle Group.
Getting old. One thing never changes: GOOD WRITING IS GOOD EDITING
ETA 4 or 5:
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Nielsen (Company), which is perhaps best known for its television ratings service, is owned by a group of investors that include AlpInvest Partners NV, The Blackstone Group LP, The Carlyle Group, Hellman & Friedman LLC, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. LP, and Thomas H. Lee Partners LP.
Source: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2009/12/editor_publisher_closing_after.html
Hekate
(99,021 posts)He may be just the bees knees as you say, but if even small children were exposed to photos from Hiroshima and Nagasaki via magazines in the average American home then the info he claims has been covered up is maybe not so much?
And as the child learned to read there were a stack of national bestsellers on every aspect of WWII I was going to say a not-so-average home, but good lordnbutter if a book is a national bestseller, its in a lot of homes. This he calls a cover-up?
On Edit: He was born the same year as I was.
Warpy
(113,839 posts)about radiation and its lingering effects, tumors appearing a decade or two after the fact and that radiation dosage is cumulative, meaning it all adds up and never goes away.
They likely saw little difference between burning a city with a nuke and burning it with carpet bombing and only gradually learned about radiation and increased cancers later on, showing up in vital statistics reports but not predictable on an individual level.
This is the level of knowledge and lack of protocol I'm talking about: