Lawrence O'Donnell: Secret White House meetings won't end Trump's Epstein crisis - The Last Word - MSNBC
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how Donald Trump is publicly holding his pardon power over Ghislaine Maxwell “so that she knows very clearly that she must never say anything negative about Donald Trump as she continues to hope for a pardon.” - Aired on 08/07/2025.
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... questions. Why don't the "Today" and "Morning Joe" shows show clips and follow-up?
Nothing new here but Lawrence lays it out elegantly and completely to bring the MAGAs up-to-date.
It doesn't seem that many MAGAs have called for Ghislaine Maxwell to receive a pardon though. Chump only has that one thing to dangle in front of her so he has to use it wisely. I think Chump will play this up until the end of his term, and she'll get her pardon once he knows he's leaving office.
BUT ... What would happen if he should die suddenly before the end of his term?
And I have to agree with you, MAGAs haven't called for a Maxwell pardon, they just want to see the files - certainly because they believe that their king is innocent! Or at least they want to be reassured. But I can't imagine that they care - he's already been convicted of 34 felonies, tried to overthrow the government and was found guilty of assaulting women! 
And why would he bother pardoning Maxwell? If and when he ever leaves office, he would have nothing to gain, unlike the J6th insurrectionists since they rioted in support of his election lies. 
If she thinks she'll never get out of prison then she can talk all she wants.
But Chump can't allow that, because people might actually start believing her.
I think she'll get a pardon, when he doesn't require her silence anymore.