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Related: About this forumLawrence: Trump predicts a '1929-style result' if Trump returns the tariff money he illegally took
Lawrence had fun with the letter from trump's counsel that predicted that US would become bankrupted if the government had to refund the illegally tariffs
@lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com: Trump predicts a â1929-style resultâ if Trump returns the tariff money he illegally took youtu.be/plopoB2SUac?...
— The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell (@lastword.msnbc.com) 2025-08-13T12:07:32.825Z
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LetMyPeopleVote
(168,338 posts)Yesterday, trump's counsel sent a letter to the court claiming that the United States would become bankrupt and the world would end if trump's tariffs were not affirmed. When trump filed an appeal, the US government promised to refund all tariffs https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220354298 Now trump is claiming that the US government would be bankrupted if these tariffs are refunded.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220354298
Justice matters.
(8,784 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)
"the convicted pedo-felonious conman beLIEveS"
C_U_L8R
(47,900 posts)Probably disappeared in many offshore accounts... just like the Russian oligarchs taught him
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,338 posts)trump's attorneys are claiming that the US is not able to repay the tariffs already collected and that holding trump's tariffs invalid will hurt the country, When trump's DOJ appealed the first ruling, the trump DOJ promised to refund the tariffs if these tariffs were held to be unconstitutional https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220354298
This letter is so sad that the WSJ had fun
'Wow': WSJ editors knife Trump administration's 'out-of-this-world' legal argument
— Jacki (@ftd1969.bsky.social) 2025-08-13T15:44:02.714Z
www.rawstory.com/trump-doj-26...
Yes, it was an out of this world legal argument, or better put, no legal argument at all.
The document was posted on BlueSky this morning. It's under my timeline if interested.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-doj-2673879888/
On Friday, Trump warned on Truth Social that if judges rule against his tariff policy, then a "1929-style" depression would occur in the U.S. The warning shocked the WSJ's editorial board.
"Wow. Ending a tax increase means depression. Who knew?" the editorial board wrote.
The board was also shocked to see Trump's lawyers repeat Trump's logic in court.
"Thats the out-of-this-world argument that Solicitor General John Sauer and Assistant Attorney General Brett Shumate made this week in a letter to the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit," the editorial reads in part. "The judges must give the President unilateral power to impose tariffs on any country at any time, or the end is nigh."
Rhiannon12866
(241,141 posts)Thanks!
Lawrence: Trump predicts a '1929-style result' if Trump returns the tariff money he illegally took - The Last Word MSNBC
https://democraticunderground.com/132154315
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,338 posts)This letter is so bad that it is funny. The idiot attorney who sent this letter deserves to be mocked and laughed at.
As if Trumpâs actions couldnât get any more embarrassing https://www.dailykos.com/story/2025/8/12/2337983/-As-if-Trump-s-actions-couldn-t-get-any-more-embarrassing?pm_campaign=blog&pm_medium=rss&pm_source=
— Fighting Liberal Texas Demðððð¦Congress Switchboard 202-224-3121 (@fightingliberal.bsky.social) 2025-08-13T02:22:18.504217Z
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/8/12/2337983/-As-if-Trump-s-actions-couldn-t-get-any-more-embarrassing
In a letter urging the Supreme Court to uphold Trumps supposed right to impose tariffseven though the Constitution gives that power to CongressSauer outdoes himself in presidential flattery.
On July 27, after stating his intention to impose IEEPA tariffs, President Trump announced the largest trade agreement in history with the 27-nation European Union, Americas most significant trading partner.
Thats wrong on several counts. The EU is the United States second-largest trading partner, behind Canada. And there is no largest trade agreement in history. What Trump announced was a framework, not a binding treaty. These agreements take years to finalize, often require congressional approval, and must be ratified by EU members. None of that has happened......
Sauers letter goes on:
Suddenly revoking the Presidents tariff authority under IEEPA would have catastrophic consequences for our national security, foreign policy, and economy. The President believes that our country would not be able to pay back the trillions of dollars that other countries have already committed to pay, which could lead to financial ruin.
If Trumps actions are illegal, downstream consequences are irrelevant. If he believes having this power is vital, Congress can give it to him. What the president believes is not legal authority, precedent, or statute. Trump believes many things that are simply wrong. And, no, other countries have not committed to pay trillions to the United States. At best, theyve made vague investment pledges that rarely materialize.......
Finally, Sauer warns:
If the United States were forced to unwind these historic agreements, the President believes that a forced dissolution of the agreements could lead to a 1929-style result. In such a scenario, people would be forced from their homes, millions of jobs would be eliminated, hard-working Americans would lose their savings, and even Social Security and Medicare could be threatened. In short, the economic consequences would be ruinous, instead of unprecedented success.
Social Security and Medicare are more threatened by GOP hostility than by losing Trumps tariffs. They were fine before his trade war, and he has never claimed tariffs were critical to their survival. If unwinding these agreements happens, it will be because Trump broke the law.