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Rhiannon12866

(242,501 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:29 PM Thursday

New video of Charlie Kirk shooting suspect escaping released by FBI and Utah officials - The Last Word - MSNBC



At a press conference late Thursday, officials released a video showing the suspect in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk escaping from a rooftop at Utah Valley University. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell discusses with MSNBC Justice Correspondent Ken Dilanian, MSNBC Legal Analyst Andrew Weissmann, and MSNBC Law Enforcement Analyst Jim Cavanaugh. - Aired on 09/11/2025.
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Lovie777

(20,100 posts)
1. Yeah..............
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:33 PM
Thursday

could be the wrong person. A shooter that hits the target 200 yards away, may have better escape route.

Rhiannon12866

(242,501 posts)
2. Could this investigation have been more bungled?? This was their first big test and they failed miserably
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:00 AM
Yesterday

Too bad that Kash Patel fired the experienced officials who knew what they were doing...

hedda_foil

(16,825 posts)
8. It looks to me that he's carrying it wrapped in some kind of fabric (the alleged towel?)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:31 AM
Yesterday

soldierant

(8,920 posts)
7. Joyce Vance today about
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:28 AM
Yesterday

what this kind of investigation is like on the inside - fromher own experience as a federal prosucutor. Late in the article she mentions Jim Kavanaugh (her spelling - MSNBC spells it with a "C&quot , abd says of him, "Jim knows better than most. He was the special agent in charge of the Birmingham bombing for ATF. He was a hostage negotiator at Waco. He was involved in VanPac. His outstanding relationships with state and local law enforcement and his colleagues at the FBI helped that investigation ultimately succeed. People like Jim are who you want in place when the chips are down."

Of course he's retired and the current regime doesn't have anyone even close to competent in any position of law enforcement. So I think you can take for granted that the investigation is being/will be bungled.

Rhiannon12866

(242,501 posts)
9. Thanks so much for adding this
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:37 AM
Yesterday

And TFG's FBI employs no one of that caliber, Patel fired those with experience and competence, like most of TFG's cabinet (and Musk) did. No wonder they're bungling this job that has become breaking news across the country.

Rhiannon12866

(242,501 posts)
13. I just caught his wise analysis on the repeat, there's no one in the current administration with his wisdom
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:53 AM
Yesterday

Aussie105

(7,184 posts)
10. Amazing how accurate modern guns are!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:58 AM
Yesterday

Amazing what a mess they can make!

Now way back in the Old Days, when the second amendment was penned, muzzle loaders didn't have that sort of range accuracy, nor create so much instant damage!

Perhaps the second amendment is way out of date, and needs revising?
I will supply the whiteout/liquid paper to correct it, about 10 bottles should do it.

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