Did We Underestimate the SECRET FORCES that Put Trump into Power?

Heidi Siegmund Cuda (Bette Dangerous blog on Substack) joins the program to talk about her latest article, GHOSTING IN, AND GHOSTING OUT: We can’t just move on from foreign influence campaigns. She discusses Putin’s global campaign to undermine the world’s democracies.

Note: she misspeaks and uses the word “undermine” a couple times when she means “underestimate.”