the fact that a lot of the sexism and bigotry are coming from inside the house.

There's no need for this hand wringing over policies, though a populist platform would be nice. But it wouldn't bring back the Biden voters who refused to vote for Harris.

A white, middle-aged, protestant, straight man would do that.

I'm already thinking about Tim Walz. He's one that checks all the boxes. Don't forget that he's a former coach as well. That'll be good enough for some.

7 points down this time, and only 5 points since Obama, very little compared to Black men 16 points this time and 34 points since Obama. Many say that race is no longer a determinant as much as class.

I think my Australian Shepherd could beat Trump. I also think Harris did a lot better than many of our white male candidates would have done. Working class Hispanics are 7% of the voting population, same with the Black working class. Small but steady shifts by minorities over a long period of time are disconcerting .

He's a WASP, but not a Yalie! I think he'd be great.

The question is Can he Win? Up against a photo of, say, Vance, Murphy is a nice poster contrast. It becomes "nice white guy" compared to "kinda yucky white guy." The repukes will have to go with: "who's the meanest SOB to deal with the bad guys," as defined by race mostly.

I am in a kind of despair as I write this post...

The last two Senators elected as POTUS were Obama…..and JFK.

Biden had most recently been VP.

Winning is the most important thing.

toxic masculinity instead of nurturing masculinity. Nurturing masculinity may need a society in which men who want to nurture their family have a reasonable expectation to succeed. It may be very difficult to promote the ideal of the family man in a culture which is already cut-throat and rapidly imploding.

Maybe Democratic leadership could develop a zeitgeist opposed to the Republican rugged individual, winner take all zeitgeist. Show that Democratic presidents have presided over far more job creation. Show that Democratic states help men to take care of their families.

Studies show that a father in the house leads to much better outcomes for kids. A big part of being a man is providing for your family. Men will take jobs that cause early death if it means a secure life for their family. Think coal mines, drill rigs, logging, fishing, etc. Since covid job growth for the native born has been flat according to the St Louis Fed. Jobs don't pay enough to support a family.

I just read on Next Door that we've a new business opening up in town that should bring 100 jobs. Fast food. If the people working there worked 40 hours every week they'd make between $27K and $52K. Of course in fast food they cut your hours so you aren't full time, so it really pays $20K or best case $40K. None of those jobs can support a family. Can't buy a house, can't pay the doctor, not middle class at all.

The mine in the Iron Range in MN that just had a lay off paid $100K with overtime.

We've seen some drastic shocks to our economy of late. Huge tariffs, big layoffs in government. Call me a socialist but I think it's time to triple the min wage, not gradually but incrementally a dollar every two weeks. I used to have a payroll, I signed the front of the check. With computers it's extremely easy to change the numbers.

The GOP has succeeded in branding so many people as boogie men that male voters have their pick. Think women, immigrants, POC, LGBT etc..

Come up with a common boogie man that many can easily understand and harp on it relentlessly. Obviously, I think that is what Bernie Sanders has done so well - the large corporations.

Dems might need to make the issue more granular to specific communities to show how they have been affected. For example, big agriculture has decimated family farms. Take the message to those areas and hammer it home.

Just my 2 cents.

The Harris Campaign spent a billion and a half dollars. I am waiting for the audit to revel the effectiveness of that spending

I figured the managers knew something I didn’t. Not Harris’ fault. She had to ramp up quickly and tapped into Obama’s campaign manager with the legitimate argument that his experience and success would benefit her. The similarities between Obama’s campaign and Harris’ campaign seemed obvious to me, but political climate is drastically different.

I was stunned. I couldn't believe it. I still don't know how this could have happened.

isn't that what repukes do???

..plus Fox News outright throws a tractor-trailer crammed full of bullshit and lies, I doubt much is going to change.
Face it. Our country is full of citizens that usually don't know What-the-hell is going on..most of the time.
Anybody that wants to argue, just say: :Who' is the President and who controls the House and the Senate?

The filthy rich are in control.

90 million Americans sat on their asses.

more than voters, and that they would have boosted Trump's percent to over 5. I don't want to even think if it might have caused some congressional seats to go south. We do pretty well in low turnout elections, midterms and special elections. Women, white, and wealthier, are all demographics that vote more reliably.

Split 50-50 — that’s 45 million Democratic votes that stayed home

What we used to do, to tip the balance, is.....

We have a long history of mail in, even Republicans agitated when some looked to take it away, so we get a ton of mail ins. As a mail in is received that voter is listed as having sent a valid ballot. Ballots aren't opened and counted until election day, but,,, by knowing the registration and identity of people who did mail them in, we'd go knock on the doors of Democrats who hadn't yet voted. In my precinct we contacted every single Democratic voter, some multiple times.

Another problem is vote switchers. Reluctant voters switch more than others. Also more and more people are registering Independent to avoid the polarization.

He saw me radicalized by the Vietnam War starting when he was 3 years old. He says he remembers me going on marches and I had a few posters up on the walls. He's not a radical but he is a prosecutor with a good sense of what is right. And my two daughters were similarly raised and married two liberal guys.

crops and milk cows.

Seriously believe tsf would consider doing that.

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...naked female candidates...

...don't give me a hide, it was a joke...

...I think that's part of it but we have to shake this 'Party of/for Minorities" image the pukes cultivate and make stick...

...we start by going back to FDR and rebuild the Party not on social groups but on Class Warfare...

...within our 'Class' there will be many social/ethnic groups but all will unite on economic issues...to that end, we need a modern-day philosophy of Socialism/Progressivism with programs that are understandable and will work in raising the living standards of the poor, working-class and middle-classes...

...we can't do that if we're constantly beholding to and in the pocket of capital...we must fund ourselves...

...most will agree, the wealthy have gotten too wealthy...it's now time for corrective measures and make capital pay to play...

...hang in there, our day is coming...

End tariffs day 1
Adopt real job creation policies
Reverse the ACA subsidy cuts
Reverse BBB Medicaid cuts
Provide tax cuts for poor and middle class
Rescind tax cuts for the rich
Bring back 70% tax brackets
Tax wealth
Strengthen Social Security and Medicare

Guns, Lowered Government Involvement in their Personal Business, Far Taxation.

They want guns in Northern and Central NJ. They want to be able to protect their families.

who doesn't look like a country club WASP.

Sorry, but sexism exists for the time being in African-American communities despite many families are matriarchal.

I was thinking of another Obama or NYC democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani. The latter was born in Uganda to an Indian family (yet he's Muslim, not Hindu), and is young (34). He talks about how hard it is for non-white communities to have decent jobs, decent homes, decent food.

Just a wild guess.

Black Americans in general are ignored unless it's election time.
Like seriously - we are ignored.

Winning issues I see in NJ -
Gun Rights
Privacy - Government minding its own business.
Fair Taxation

I was at an NAACP meeting Tuesday evening in NJ - The non-members were very clear in their questions and concerns in NJ. They are extremely resentful of their tax dollars going out of state They want to protect their families.

Of gun ownership is among Black Americans - been trending since 2020.

Money Going out of state - Yeah. We resent that Black Working Class New Jerseyans have to hand over our money to people who call us N-Bombs in Arkansas and West VA. They are just spending it on meth anyways.

Black Democratic members in Hunterdon County NJ are fed up with heroin addicts overdosing like it's something new.

Now that it's Opioids and white folks we have to Molly coddle them. Im 52. Im old enough to remember crack.and how when it was Black folks it was a character issue.

Privacy - Excuse me. When did my party start wanting the government in our bedrooms?

So tell me - what part is Republican? The part where working class Black folks in NJ see their state get the least back from Fed Gov?