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MichMan

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50. Fines and jail time on employers would also create poverty and homelessness for undocumented workers

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 02:27 PM

Oct 2018

Is that really what you want?

Anyone without a valid green card would become unemployable and either forced to return to their native country or become homeless and unable to feed their families.

Even if they had lived and worked in this country for many years and had established roots and established families here in the US? Millions of undocumented immigrants came here to work and establish a better life and we should take that all away from them ?

Is that what our politicians should be constantly advocating?

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Been using a new tact with Republicans. ie. Immigration. [View all] Glamrock Oct 2018 OP

I hope it worked lunatica Oct 2018 #1

nope, to most of these yahoos rampartc Oct 2018 #2

All I can say is the stunned silence I walked away from spoke volumes. Glamrock Oct 2018 #3

i hope you are right rampartc Oct 2018 #4

Yup it works sharedvalues Oct 2018 #73

Almost all undocumented immigrants won't show up at the polls to vote TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #12

that would be my guess rampartc Oct 2018 #26

Undocumented people don't vote. mucifer Oct 2018 #29

Why do you think undocumented people should have the right to vote? MichMan Oct 2018 #32

Other than they live here and they work here and they pay taxes here, I can't think of a reason. Iggo Oct 2018 #52

Why is working and paying taxes connected to having the right to vote ? MichMan Oct 2018 #54

You're right. Early in my career I lived in New Jersey but I worked in New York. George II Oct 2018 #58

"Almost all?" I bet all twelve* that have did so mistakenly thinking they could. shanny Oct 2018 #62

I was hedging my statement by including the word "almost". TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #67

Ah. I hear you. shanny Oct 2018 #72

Yup. Many won't even drive to doctors AllyCat Oct 2018 #74

good for you. Kurt V. Oct 2018 #5

I'm hoping. Glamrock Oct 2018 #6

Doesn't take a lot to shut them up. safeinOhio Oct 2018 #10

Or they could provide for visas treestar Oct 2018 #7

Ironically, it was the urge to "Close the Borders!" shanny Oct 2018 #64

Yes - I read an article on how they would prefer to spend treestar Oct 2018 #77

They are all, well not all, so phony. watoos Oct 2018 #8

That's my point. Glamrock Oct 2018 #9

Throw in that Dump hires all kinds of illegals robbob Oct 2018 #11

Doh! Glamrock Oct 2018 #13

Slap them with one last point. Those dudes probably like a little Esquire... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #14

Thanks for that! Glamrock Oct 2018 #17

Did that myself for far, far too many years. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #18

Hot work? Glamrock Oct 2018 #20

Field service (electrical) engineer... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #21

I'm in DC electrical work. Glamrock Oct 2018 #23

Yes, that probably comes from years of strict safety training. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #27

Don't get me wrong Glamrock Oct 2018 #28

Yep, as a power electrician he's scared to hell of bus bars..... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #36

That's where I cut my DC Glamrock Oct 2018 #37

You too, Glamrock and have a good day of rest! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #39

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2018 #78

only one problem MissMillie Oct 2018 #15

Oh they were definitely thinking about it as I walked away. Glamrock Oct 2018 #16

I have used this argument for some time. gordianot Oct 2018 #19

Sounds good in theory, but there are unintended consequences MichMan Oct 2018 #34

Few Americans are aware of the scope of this issue.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #41

I am still hung up on the idea allowing immigration. gordianot Oct 2018 #56

I guess they will claim Ilsa Oct 2018 #22

Haven't encountered that argument yet.... Glamrock Oct 2018 #24

Good job! Many Republican voters simply don't know the facts & need to be educated. mtnsnake Oct 2018 #25

Great post malaise Oct 2018 #30

Tanks mama! Glamrock Oct 2018 #31

If they really wanted to stop illegal immigration, they'd propose exorbitant fines and jail ..... lunasun Oct 2018 #33

Nice righteous rant Luna! Glamrock Oct 2018 #35

A good simple title for your beautiful rant would be... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #44

Outdated argument, Republicans hate all unskilled immigrants now because of automation Amishman Oct 2018 #38

True that! Glamrock Oct 2018 #40

The farms in my rural area of Michigan... llmart Oct 2018 #66

Not yet, give it 5-10 years Amishman Oct 2018 #75

Well done! Aristus Oct 2018 #42

Grassy ass brother Aristus. Glamrock Oct 2018 #46

! Achilleaze Oct 2018 #43

Well done! This is why I often post on neutral or even right wing sites, and why PatrickforO Oct 2018 #45

I'm down. Glamrock Oct 2018 #47

This: CrispyQ Oct 2018 #48

Fines and jail time on employers would also create poverty and homelessness for undocumented workers MichMan Oct 2018 #50

LOL. You don't think the Rs would actually DO that, do you? shanny Oct 2018 #71

Sure. Let's let the right continue to dominate the narrative on this issue. CrispyQ Oct 2018 #80

Great approach to open their minds. Nice going! JudyM Oct 2018 #49

Good work, Glam! elleng Oct 2018 #51

You rock, Glamrock. LuvLoogie Oct 2018 #53

I have to, it's in the name.... Glamrock Oct 2018 #57

Card enid602 Oct 2018 #55

Republican illegal alien Christian Rivera killed Mollie Tibbets. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #59

There was a time when blue collar dudes were loyal Dems IronLionZion Oct 2018 #60

card-carrying truth evangelist bora13 Oct 2018 #61

Exactly, with the majority that they have had for years they could have easily proposed cstanleytech Oct 2018 #63

I don't Rebl2 Oct 2018 #65

This is exactly right,, reACTIONary Oct 2018 #68

Please, that's a new TACK - not a new "TACT" --- NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #69

Thank you for saving me the effort. marybourg Oct 2018 #76

And while we're getting pet peeves out the way, the word is JIBE, not JIVE lol (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #79

AWESOME!! BadGimp Oct 2018 #70

It amazes me TEB Dec 2018 #81

Me too brother, me too. Glamrock Dec 2018 #82