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peggysue2

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61. The reason I cannot get bent over Elizabeth Warren's DNA snafu is . . . personal experience
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 06:30 PM
Feb 2019

My husband had a near identical story in his family, a presumed Native American link to his great-grandmother. The story had been supplied through his grandfather with a lot of detail that sounded absolutely credible. And so, that story was passed around as real. And yet, when my husband took the DNA testing there wasn't a hint of Native DNA. His grandparents are dead so there's no going back to question the details. It will remain a family mystery. However, my husband did have a high Neanderthal score which has provided me with hours of teasing.

My DNA testing was pretty boring, no surprises other than a single link to a distant Finn blood relative some 5 generations ago. Everything else (92+%) pointed to an Irish/British data base, scattered with Northern European and a smattering of French/German lineage.

For me the DNA testing was important for health reasons. My father and sister had/have Alzheimers. I was grateful and relieved to find out I don't share the marker for the disease. And being the sort of nosy news spot that I am that was something I wanted a heads up on. Doesn't mean I can't have other problems with dementia caused by small strokes, for instance. That's the way my mother and my maternal grandmother went. But at least the Alzheimer factor is off the table.

But as for the family stories? I think these are far more common than we think. Elizabeth Warren is being hit over the head with all this for purely political reasons. Yes, the rollout may have been clumsy and now we know she used the ethnic/racial identity on one of her bar certificates. So what? This is just being weaponized to wound her chances in 2020. And btw, which has been more offensive--Elizabeth Warren's claim to Native American lineage or Trump's incessant shout out to Pocahontas?

For any objective person, it's definitely the latter.

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what pisses me off is that we as a country decide things like tax rates on the basis of this crap. unblock Feb 2019 #1
boy, well said. ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #8
I couldn't have said it better myself n/t ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #25
Yes!! Well said mountain grammy Feb 2019 #37
This!!!! Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #66
My thought on this is mainstreetonce Feb 2019 #2
I agree PatSeg Feb 2019 #67
Too many are trying to make an issue of it Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #3
At the end of the day, the voters will decide. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #4
How many people are like this person? eissa Feb 2019 #5
Being told you are a different kind of white person is a little different. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #6
You Know This RobinA Feb 2019 #16
But when a form asks for race TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #18
I Do. RobinA Feb 2019 #55
White people's ancestry HAS been infinitely more important than any non-Whites Caliman73 Feb 2019 #68
Warren relayed a family history of Native ancestry gratuitous Feb 2019 #7
I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #11
I don't know about Harvard gratuitous Feb 2019 #13
Wait, what? SCOTT BROWN started the "Pocohantas" thing? maddiemom Feb 2019 #40
Yes ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #45
Yes, and his supporters did the woo-woo yell and hatchet-wave gesture at her. Nice, right? Hekate Feb 2019 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Ferryboat Feb 2019 #60
THIS Ferryboat Feb 2019 #62
I had a similar experience. hopeforchange2008 Feb 2019 #9
It's like political polling customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #57
I was told we had Asian ancestry. I believed it because....my mom was a Korean woman. LexVegas Feb 2019 #10
I think it was intentionally misleading. Her parents aren't native, she knows nothing of SweetieD Feb 2019 #12
she NEVER claimed to be Native American - on edit, I was not correct on this point ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #14
Wait. She didn't print "Native American" on her Bar application? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #15
I don't know if it was the bar application or some other test or what ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #17
Should Obama's mother described herself as black? Like on applications under race put black? SweetieD Feb 2019 #23
what you seem to be suggesting is if Obama was asked what his heritage was ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #27
She wrote it out. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #26
whoa ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #28
The only thing I can figure is she was a Republican at that point. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #35
yeah, bizarre ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #36
I like her too. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #38
It has Race: _________ and she wrote in American Indian (no multiple checkbox stuff) progree Feb 2019 #34
It the question was "check all that apply", then I think this is case closed. LisaM Feb 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author druidity33 Feb 2019 #47
You are a couple days behind on the news cycle. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #51
Yeah, seeing it now... nt. druidity33 Feb 2019 #52
She was wrong for putting down Native American as her race on the Texas bar SweetieD Feb 2019 #20
need documentation of both of those claims please ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #21
Google it. It came out a few days ago. Both the application and her response to it. SweetieD Feb 2019 #24
She knew it wouldn't benefit her. My husband was filling out forms in the same era, pnwmom Feb 2019 #43
As someone who's more that 5/8 Ojibwe, I don't think she intentionally misled anybody. I'm much catbyte Feb 2019 #53
My grandmother was one half Crow. Born in Lodge Grass, Montana, in the 1880's. panader0 Feb 2019 #19
She never claimed to be native american - on edit, that's not true, thanks for the info ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #22
How about when she applied for the State Bar of Texas? panader0 Feb 2019 #29
Yes she did LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #30
See #17 above. She wrote "American Indian" as her race. SharonClark Feb 2019 #31
I think the issue is not that she thought that she had Native American ancestry frazzled Feb 2019 #32
"...just a little scared at the thought of being so inbred." LOL! deurbano Feb 2019 #58
my uncle told me in 1979 they had a grandmother who was Cherokee demigoddess Feb 2019 #33
I once checked Eskimo on a University form. Scruffy1 Feb 2019 #39
Same here. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #41
Just because NA doesnt show up in a DNA test doesn't mean you don't have NA ancestry... WePurrsevere Feb 2019 #42
I don't know how much we can trust DNA tests IronLionZion Feb 2019 #44
Huh? shanti Feb 2019 #49
Not for ancestry. People have gotten different results from different companies IronLionZion Feb 2019 #54
I've taken both shanti Feb 2019 #56
The limits of ancestry DNA tests, explained IronLionZion Feb 2019 #59
Well said. This has LOSING ISSUE written all over it for Republicans. sandensea Feb 2019 #46
I took the 23nme test too shanti Feb 2019 #48
The reason I cannot get bent over Elizabeth Warren's DNA snafu is . . . personal experience peggysue2 Feb 2019 #61
I have a Choctaw g-g-grandmother, Who may or may not be Choctaw. nolabear Feb 2019 #63
Yeah, me too. TomSlick Feb 2019 #64
It is amazing to me that so many have had the same experience! NT Peacetrain Feb 2019 #69
Call Trump " the Swede" McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #70
Brilliant!! Peacetrain Feb 2019 #71
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