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In reply to the discussion: Why I know there's something to UFOs. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(22,123 posts)86. Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread.
How Harry Reid, a Terrorist Interrogator and the Singer From Blink-182 Took UFOs Mainstream
The hidden history of how Washington embraced a fringe field of science.
By BRYAN BENDER
Politico, 05/28/2021
Excerpt...
Over the next few years, (Harry) Reid told me, he went to multiple such meetings. As Bigelow, Alexander and the others were publishing obscure journal articles and compiling a database of UFO sightings, the most influential member of the group quietly broached the topic with some of his colleagues in Washington, including former astronaut and senator John Glenn. Reid ultimately enlisted the support of a handful of powerful committee chairs, including Ted Stevens of Alaska and Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, to fund hush-hush UFO research inside the Defense Department. The existence of that program was revealed publicly by POLITICO and the New York Times in mid-December 2017. One of the programs main beneficiaries was an aerospace company owned by none other than Robert Bigelow.
Next month, the director of national intelligence, acting at the behest of Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, is scheduled to release a report that collects from across the government all relevant material on what the officials now call unidentified aerial phenomena. Regardless of what ultimately emerges in this reportwhether its a trove of blockbuster reveals or a disappointing dudthe mere prospect has catalyzed a wave of mainstream coverage of government UFO research, from the New Yorker to 60 Minutes. A bewildering and still highly controversial subject has achieved a surprising level of public respectability as a national security concern.
Reid had retired by the time his secret role in the program was revealed. But his willingness to talk openly now about the subject speaks to a profound change in the calculus of political and reputational risk. Far from a blot on his career, Reid sees it as a line to highlight on his legislative resume and he has no regrets about Bigelow benefiting from the program.
I think that I have opened the door to people not being afraid to talk about it, Reid now says. I know that when I first got involved in this, people in the military were afraid to mention it for fear of it hurting their promotions. But now the Pentagon has told them they should report all these things that they see that are unusual. So we made a tremendous amount of progress.
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/05/28/ufos-secret-history-government-washington-dc-487900
Many of the people and ideas brought up in this thread are mentioned in todays Politico cover story. To reiterate: I, like many of the people quoted in this thread and in the article, dont know what UAP or UFOs are. Unsurprisingly, even when President, Dumpy has no clue or interest in what I find a fascinating topic. What I do want to do is to apply the principles of science to learn more.
The hidden history of how Washington embraced a fringe field of science.
By BRYAN BENDER
Politico, 05/28/2021
Excerpt...
Over the next few years, (Harry) Reid told me, he went to multiple such meetings. As Bigelow, Alexander and the others were publishing obscure journal articles and compiling a database of UFO sightings, the most influential member of the group quietly broached the topic with some of his colleagues in Washington, including former astronaut and senator John Glenn. Reid ultimately enlisted the support of a handful of powerful committee chairs, including Ted Stevens of Alaska and Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, to fund hush-hush UFO research inside the Defense Department. The existence of that program was revealed publicly by POLITICO and the New York Times in mid-December 2017. One of the programs main beneficiaries was an aerospace company owned by none other than Robert Bigelow.
Next month, the director of national intelligence, acting at the behest of Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, is scheduled to release a report that collects from across the government all relevant material on what the officials now call unidentified aerial phenomena. Regardless of what ultimately emerges in this reportwhether its a trove of blockbuster reveals or a disappointing dudthe mere prospect has catalyzed a wave of mainstream coverage of government UFO research, from the New Yorker to 60 Minutes. A bewildering and still highly controversial subject has achieved a surprising level of public respectability as a national security concern.
Reid had retired by the time his secret role in the program was revealed. But his willingness to talk openly now about the subject speaks to a profound change in the calculus of political and reputational risk. Far from a blot on his career, Reid sees it as a line to highlight on his legislative resume and he has no regrets about Bigelow benefiting from the program.
I think that I have opened the door to people not being afraid to talk about it, Reid now says. I know that when I first got involved in this, people in the military were afraid to mention it for fear of it hurting their promotions. But now the Pentagon has told them they should report all these things that they see that are unusual. So we made a tremendous amount of progress.
Continues...
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/05/28/ufos-secret-history-government-washington-dc-487900
Many of the people and ideas brought up in this thread are mentioned in todays Politico cover story. To reiterate: I, like many of the people quoted in this thread and in the article, dont know what UAP or UFOs are. Unsurprisingly, even when President, Dumpy has no clue or interest in what I find a fascinating topic. What I do want to do is to apply the principles of science to learn more.
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You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't.
Towlie
May 2021
#7
Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception."
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#50
Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on.
BannonsLiver
May 2021
#16
If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs
captain queeg
May 2021
#2
You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance.
SWBTATTReg
May 2022
#89
I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging
BSdetect
May 2021
#40
I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial
highplainsdem
May 2021
#15
Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what
doc03
May 2021
#21
Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding
Stuart G
May 2021
#23
How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time?
Maraya1969
May 2021
#24
I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior
Bucky
May 2021
#35
Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history,
Roisin Ni Fiachra
May 2021
#51
There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think
akbacchus_BC
May 2021
#52
We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket.
Dave Starsky
May 2021
#53
"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."
Caliman73
May 2021
#56
Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact.
Caliman73
May 2021
#70
Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread.
Kid Berwyn
May 2021
#86