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Showing Original Post only (View all)At least one publisher asked a famous author to allow trained AI to write their future books. [View all]
Last edited Fri Jul 14, 2023, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)
Dammit.
This news today via tweets from bestselling YA author Maureen Johnson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Johnson - who was given permission by the famous author to tweet about this but not name names yet.
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Maureen Johnson
@maureenjohnson
Authors: we need to stand up with the actors. AI is ALREADY HERE in our work. I just spoke to a Very Famous Author who has to remain nameless for legal reasons. They are held up in a contract negotiation because a Major Publisher wants to train AI on their work.
This person will talk publicly when they can. They can't right now. But you see what this means, and what's already going on. If we don't support other artists, we're toast.
I have their permission to talk about this as a blind item. Seriously. The alarms are ringing right now.
There are already services training AI on our books. This is an attempt by one of the Big Publishers to codify this into a contract. And I repeat, this person is a tentpole of publishing. So this can, and almost certainly will, happen to us all.
We need to know from agents if they are seeing this on other contracts. And we have to get serious about unionizing as authors.
I'm really not fond of ringing alarms or freaking out. It's just that the moment is here. It's already here. And we need to--every single one of us in publishing--every author, agent, editor--need to get together on this right now or our whole art and industry goes up in smoke.
We have to deal with this immediately in our contracts, in our work being fed to AI online. And then we need an Authors Union NOW.
@maureenjohnson
Authors: we need to stand up with the actors. AI is ALREADY HERE in our work. I just spoke to a Very Famous Author who has to remain nameless for legal reasons. They are held up in a contract negotiation because a Major Publisher wants to train AI on their work.
This person will talk publicly when they can. They can't right now. But you see what this means, and what's already going on. If we don't support other artists, we're toast.
I have their permission to talk about this as a blind item. Seriously. The alarms are ringing right now.
There are already services training AI on our books. This is an attempt by one of the Big Publishers to codify this into a contract. And I repeat, this person is a tentpole of publishing. So this can, and almost certainly will, happen to us all.
We need to know from agents if they are seeing this on other contracts. And we have to get serious about unionizing as authors.
I'm really not fond of ringing alarms or freaking out. It's just that the moment is here. It's already here. And we need to--every single one of us in publishing--every author, agent, editor--need to get together on this right now or our whole art and industry goes up in smoke.
We have to deal with this immediately in our contracts, in our work being fed to AI online. And then we need an Authors Union NOW.
EDITING because I just found a later tweet she posted with a TikTok video with a bit more detail. She explains that the famous author was upset because the publisher wanted the AI trained to "spit out more" of the author's work, without the author being involved:
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https://www.tiktok.com/@maureenjohnsonbooks/video/7255426312058178858
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At least one publisher asked a famous author to allow trained AI to write their future books. [View all]
highplainsdem
Jul 2023
OP
I agree on labelling. Using AI for, say, programming is greatly different from authoring
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#17
We'll see. But as I said in the email.I sent you, the data set of a very famous
highplainsdem
Jul 2023
#8
Nevertheless, that's not what's discussed by others in the industry in that Twitter thread.
Emrys
Jul 2023
#9
I stand by what I said. Having an AI trained on the data set of a famous author
highplainsdem
Jul 2023
#10
I've edited the OP to include a later tweet with a TikTok video with more details
highplainsdem
Jul 2023
#12
It would be to promote it as trained on the author, sold as if "almost the real thing"
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#14
Wrong. Not the sole purpose. Finding new medicines does NOT eliminate workers
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#16
It either is the author or the AI. I will will not buy fiction written by AI
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#13
Non-fiction isn't simply a collection of facts. There's judgment involved. And perspective.
highplainsdem
Jul 2023
#18
Yes. AI can be useful to assist non-fiction writers by fact-checking and completing datasets
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#27
Thank you for a thoughtful post with insight from experience. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#24
AI-written fiction reminds me of the New Coke debacle. But even less desirable
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#15
It is inevitable so it must be required to be labelled. But emulating an author with their name
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2023
#29