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Emrys

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22. I copy-edit almost solely non-fiction and academic titles.
Fri Jul 14, 2023, 10:42 AM
Jul 2023

Even the best and most authoritative authors need assistance in ensuring their ideas are expressed clearly and that they haven't had inadvertent mental glitches, even before you get anywhere near fact-checking.

Those who aren't the best sometimes need a great deal of help with English issues, especially if it's not their first language, which isn't uncommon as English is the lingua franca for most subjects.

If anything's unclear in what a human author's written, we can raise queries with them and clear issues up, or if they're incompetent, we can apply common sense or our own real-world knowledge and research as best we can to get the job done. I'm not sure how that would work with an AI author. I'm not sure at all how it would work with AI copy-editors working on AI-generated text!

But the technology's been creeping in to copy-editing work for years in the form of automated "assistants" using AI (which are not infrequently more of a hindrance than a help), though so far they still need humans as the final arbiters, and maybe always will unless standards slip even more than they have already over the last few decades.

The pressures are likely to be higher in non-fiction because academics have to publish to survive nowadays, even if they sometimes have nothing new to say ("sometimes" may be a bit generous there). Plagiarism is already a major issue, and efforts to detect it have been automated to a certain extent - often using AI. Detecting AI-generated copy will pose its own challenges, and so the arms race will continue - and no doubt involve pitting AI against AI!

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Linking to the LBN thread about studios wanting to exploit actors via AI: highplainsdem Jul 2023 #1
We must insist on all such AI moniss Jul 2023 #2
We draw a line against AI now, or see most humans replaced in most highplainsdem Jul 2023 #3
I concur wholeheartedly moniss Jul 2023 #5
I agree on labelling. Using AI for, say, programming is greatly different from authoring Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #17
As far as I can see, "train AI on their work" doesn't mean the contract Emrys Jul 2023 #4
There are already companies training AI on specific authors' work to copy highplainsdem Jul 2023 #6
No, your OP title is misleading. Emrys Jul 2023 #7
We'll see. But as I said in the email.I sent you, the data set of a very famous highplainsdem Jul 2023 #8
Nevertheless, that's not what's discussed by others in the industry in that Twitter thread. Emrys Jul 2023 #9
I stand by what I said. Having an AI trained on the data set of a famous author highplainsdem Jul 2023 #10
I've edited the OP to include a later tweet with a TikTok video with more details highplainsdem Jul 2023 #12
It would be to promote it as trained on the author, sold as if "almost the real thing" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #14
AI's sole purpose is to eliminate employees regardless of Artcatt Jul 2023 #11
Wrong. Not the sole purpose. Finding new medicines does NOT eliminate workers Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #16
There are types of AI that are helpful. This is not one of them. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #19
It either is the author or the AI. I will will not buy fiction written by AI Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #13
Non-fiction isn't simply a collection of facts. There's judgment involved. And perspective. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #18
Yes. AI can be useful to assist non-fiction writers by fact-checking and completing datasets Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #27
I copy-edit almost solely non-fiction and academic titles. Emrys Jul 2023 #22
Thank you for a thoughtful post with insight from experience. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #24
AI-written fiction reminds me of the New Coke debacle. But even less desirable Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #15
I'm not okay with lab created stories, songs or video. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2023 #20
This Is Inevitable. If It Can Be Done, It Will Be Done. MineralMan Jul 2023 #21
No, it isn't inevitable, and should not be considered acceptable. Just highplainsdem Jul 2023 #23
I did not say that I approved of it. I don't. MineralMan Jul 2023 #25
I think some heirs and owners of intellectual property will welcome it Johonny Jul 2023 #26
Yup. The fight is on, apparently. MineralMan Jul 2023 #31
The people pushing AI want us to call it inevitable so it will be viewed highplainsdem Jul 2023 #30
In the end, the audience is going to decide what is acceptable. MineralMan Jul 2023 #32
"Writing to fit a formula, often called hackwork, can be done by humans" Emrys Jul 2023 #28
It is inevitable so it must be required to be labelled. But emulating an author with their name Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #29
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