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MineralMan

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32. In the end, the audience is going to decide what is acceptable.

Fri Jul 14, 2023, 11:46 AM

Jul 2023

What do you think will happen?

Inevitability does not equal acceptability.

Neither of us is going to get to decide what is acceptable, quite frankly.

I use to be a $1 per word writer. That ended when paper publications went away. And they went away when they couldn't find advertisers. For computer magazines, that happened when there were only a couple of brands of PCs being made and only a few major software companies.

I stopped writing for the failing computer magazines and started writing website content from start to finish for brand new business websites. I worked with a successful small website designer. I'm fast, good, and flexible. So, that worked out well. Now I'm retired. Almost everyone I knew in the magazine writing business is now retired. That market no longer exists in a way that can offer writers a career. Time changes things. That, too, is inevitable, but not acceptable.

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At least one publisher asked a famous author to allow trained AI to write their future books. [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2023 OP

Linking to the LBN thread about studios wanting to exploit actors via AI: highplainsdem Jul 2023 #1

We must insist on all such AI moniss Jul 2023 #2

We draw a line against AI now, or see most humans replaced in most highplainsdem Jul 2023 #3

I concur wholeheartedly moniss Jul 2023 #5

I agree on labelling. Using AI for, say, programming is greatly different from authoring Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #17

As far as I can see, "train AI on their work" doesn't mean the contract Emrys Jul 2023 #4

There are already companies training AI on specific authors' work to copy highplainsdem Jul 2023 #6

No, your OP title is misleading. Emrys Jul 2023 #7

We'll see. But as I said in the email.I sent you, the data set of a very famous highplainsdem Jul 2023 #8

Nevertheless, that's not what's discussed by others in the industry in that Twitter thread. Emrys Jul 2023 #9

I stand by what I said. Having an AI trained on the data set of a famous author highplainsdem Jul 2023 #10

I've edited the OP to include a later tweet with a TikTok video with more details highplainsdem Jul 2023 #12

It would be to promote it as trained on the author, sold as if "almost the real thing" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #14

AI's sole purpose is to eliminate employees regardless of Artcatt Jul 2023 #11

Wrong. Not the sole purpose. Finding new medicines does NOT eliminate workers Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #16

There are types of AI that are helpful. This is not one of them. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #19

It either is the author or the AI. I will will not buy fiction written by AI Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #13

Non-fiction isn't simply a collection of facts. There's judgment involved. And perspective. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #18

Yes. AI can be useful to assist non-fiction writers by fact-checking and completing datasets Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #27

I copy-edit almost solely non-fiction and academic titles. Emrys Jul 2023 #22

Thank you for a thoughtful post with insight from experience. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #24

AI-written fiction reminds me of the New Coke debacle. But even less desirable Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #15

I'm not okay with lab created stories, songs or video. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2023 #20

This Is Inevitable. If It Can Be Done, It Will Be Done. MineralMan Jul 2023 #21

No, it isn't inevitable, and should not be considered acceptable. Just highplainsdem Jul 2023 #23

I did not say that I approved of it. I don't. MineralMan Jul 2023 #25

I think some heirs and owners of intellectual property will welcome it Johonny Jul 2023 #26

Yup. The fight is on, apparently. MineralMan Jul 2023 #31

The people pushing AI want us to call it inevitable so it will be viewed highplainsdem Jul 2023 #30

In the end, the audience is going to decide what is acceptable. MineralMan Jul 2023 #32

"Writing to fit a formula, often called hackwork, can be done by humans" Emrys Jul 2023 #28

It is inevitable so it must be required to be labelled. But emulating an author with their name Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #29