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RSherman

(576 posts)
84. My uncle is muttering about civil war
Wed Aug 23, 2023, 08:48 AM
Aug 2023

I live in the north country in NYS. My uncle has always tended to listen to AM radio stations and something out of Canada and has long been down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. But a larger part of his personality used to be at least somewhat normal. He is 82, generous with his time and money. Good looking guy. Volunteers with a search and rescue group. Repairs trails on National Trails Day. Would give anyone his last dollar and frequently has. He still works and doesn't have much, but he puts money in the church donation plate, then gives extra if a family has experienced a fire, illness, or death. He can be very funny.

He has been hanging around our Constitutional Sheriff and now I can't be around him at all anymore. He espouses RW/Trump talking points. He has been turned down for jobs because he won't get the vax. His face turns red and purple, his voice raises, and his arms start flying around. I live way out in the country and was shocked when someone appeared on my porch at 10 p.m. a few days ago. It was a young woman at the wrong address with an Instacart delivery. (I didn't even know we could get that out here!). I made the mistake of telling Uncle Dave and he started yelling that the young woman just better watch herself going to the wrong house out in the country. I cut him off and reminded him that people used to be able to knock on the wrong door, ring the wrong doorbell, accidentally get in the wrong car, turn around in a driveway without getting shot. I said it's not the young woman's fault--it's the people being quick to use a gun. Then he started muttering stuff about "they and "them" and about civil war. Who does he think he's going to fight? It's not North v South this time. Or slave owners v abolitionists. Each state has communities of red/blue/purple. And exactly why are we going to civil war? Over which ideology? RWs can't even agree completely on their beliefs.

Anyway, I find it disgusting that our sheriff is actively working to get people radicalized and extreme, then holding rallies to remind them of their Second Amendment rights. Dangerous combo.

Another point: The Dept. of Health just published a study about people being lonely and isolated. That is my uncle. He is the perfect target for people trying to radicalize others.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/05/03/new-surgeon-general-advisory-raises-alarm-about-devastating-impact-epidemic-loneliness-isolation-united-states.html


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They never really admitted defeat and surrendered. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #1
Yep! LakeArenal Aug 2023 #3
We just never realized it fully until recently. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #5
Some people realized it more than others. yardwork Aug 2023 #22
Yep some of us knew it all along. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #23
Agreed. It was amazing driving rural roads in SC, GA, FL. Especially GA.They have never recovered. Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #46
An entire economy and way of life built upon slavery. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #67
If you have relatives in the South, I think we've known since... forever. LakeArenal Aug 2023 #7
Yep.... anciano Aug 2023 #8
I was born and raised in the South (Texas, but all of my relatives were in Alabama.) Aristus Aug 2023 #11
Yes. It shocked my as a child. I felt totally removed from them. LakeArenal Aug 2023 #13
It's not just the South, sadly NickB79 Aug 2023 #43
I was working in a tire shop. Mopar151 Aug 2023 #53
They rarely miss... 2naSalit Aug 2023 #82
and is beautiful, no doubt SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #55
I keep hearing this "it's just not the South" and I want to scream maxrandb Aug 2023 #62
I worked in North Carolina a couple yrs in the 90s, the KKK was in the fudging PHONE BOOK. Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #68
I worked in North Carolina too. llmart Aug 2023 #109
The whites only places existed in the North ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #70
But, there is a "difference" maxrandb Aug 2023 #73
Glad you mentioned that; my mom had similar stories from Philly oldsoftie Aug 2023 #92
Maybe some northern states had "whites only" lunch counters and hotels DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #75
Funny bdamomma Aug 2023 #80
Yes, there were pro-slavers in the antebellum North. Copperheads. raging moderate Aug 2023 #85
Originally from eastern Massachusetts. Child of the 50s, 60s. No blacks in my blue collar KPN Aug 2023 #90
Sure enuff AKwannabe Aug 2023 #37
Or if you're a Northerner who lived in the South as I did... llmart Aug 2023 #102
I believe that. LakeArenal Aug 2023 #103
I have never met people more ready to start fights than young Southern boys. Aristus Aug 2023 #110
Got a match? orangecrush Aug 2023 #28
Bingo. KPN Aug 2023 #89
KNR niyad Aug 2023 #2
Apparently they don't remember Sherman's march to the sea. William769 Aug 2023 #4
We can do it again if they want! PortTack Aug 2023 #12
General Sherman should have marched to Texas.... DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #76
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Aug 2023 #111
They remember! They're just trying again and again, hoping it comes out right for them at last. yardwork Aug 2023 #24
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it". William769 Aug 2023 #45
A big bdamomma Aug 2023 #81
..... Tanuki Aug 2023 #34
A whole new cottage industry of maga idiots re-inacting the surrenders of the 19 like they do the MLAA Aug 2023 #6
that's a good one. nt barbtries Aug 2023 #9
Fani Willis is going to make grass of their asses. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2023 #10
🤞🏼 LakeArenal Aug 2023 #14
They will take the stand in Dixie Land. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #15
.... orangecrush Aug 2023 #30
To live or die in Dixie. 160 years later. Lincoln was damn benevolent. They want it again??? Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #47
So how is this new civil war going be fought? The full power of the largest military force in the Martin68 Aug 2023 #16
The Gravy Seals, Meal Team Six, and the Mom's Basement Rangers are on the job. Aristus Aug 2023 #17
forgot the Oat Eaters (natural food militia) Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #48
Don't forget... control of that military can change every 4 years... WarGamer Aug 2023 #19
Are you suggesting our military would stand by against an armed attack on the government of the US? Martin68 Aug 2023 #21
I agree with WarGamer. yardwork Aug 2023 #26
I'll repeat... WarGamer Aug 2023 #29
Thank you. Pinback Aug 2023 #31
AND - are we really imagining that a lot of stopdiggin Aug 2023 #41
also want to throw out that 'the government' stopdiggin Aug 2023 #42
Thank you for the gratuitous repetition. I'd suggest that considering the number of people in prison Martin68 Aug 2023 #72
Becuz AKwannabe Aug 2023 #38
Why else is Tuberville holding 80 plus promotions and two empty top commands? Army, USMC Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #49
Couldn't a future president Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #52
depends if the Constitution and rule of law no longer matters? Legal opinions DU'ers? Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #56
I know presidents have fired generals before. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #57
It's a great question. I can't answer. Anyone? Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #60
Here's what I found on google: (it's complicated) Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #61
thanks! Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #95
They are all keyboard and nothing else. yardwork Aug 2023 #25
Even the Russian military would fail. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #33
And the witnesses against them are.. THEM!!! Now THAT'S a show of character.. nt TeamProg Aug 2023 #18
Lol! What is it about Atlanta? yardwork Aug 2023 #20
That's where TFT records its music DFW Aug 2023 #54
Clearly, Atlanta is awesome. yardwork Aug 2023 #69
It has been pretty cool to me every time I was there DFW Aug 2023 #74
There both sane people and insane people everywhere soldierant Aug 2023 #27
Definition of insanity Marthe48 Aug 2023 #91
WEll, yeah. soldierant Aug 2023 #93
The people who want to have a civil war are under the impression that they will do all of the killing Chainfire Aug 2023 #32
Right? AKwannabe Aug 2023 #35
What, both of them? malthaussen Aug 2023 #36
The stupids paid all that money was the Ar's and they're itching to use them kimbutgar Aug 2023 #39
You'll lose,, MAGAts Blue Owl Aug 2023 #40
Damn skippy! B.See Aug 2023 #66
Aristus surfered Aug 2023 #44
Thank you. Aristus Aug 2023 #50
Remember the definition of stupid. Duppers Aug 2023 #51
That sir, is a masterpiece Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #58
Multiple family reunions in downtown Tulsa in 1961. czarjak Aug 2023 #59
The only civil war coming will be among malaise Aug 2023 #63
4/9/1865. Never forget. nt Hotler Aug 2023 #64
He has this to say: Wonder Why Aug 2023 #65
DUzy!!!! AmBlue Aug 2023 #71
Indeed. underpants Aug 2023 #78
This just in StoolPigeon Aug 2023 #77
Those bdamomma Aug 2023 #79
This is an anazing tbread malaise Aug 2023 #83
My uncle is muttering about civil war RSherman Aug 2023 #84
Wow, your uncle is really in a cult. The Emile Aug 2023 #106
their threats llashram Aug 2023 #86
If Grant had been drinking at Appomattox -- James Thurber usonian Aug 2023 #87
Like the posting republianmushroom Aug 2023 #88
Because the last civil war worked out so well for the secessionists Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2023 #94
The Stupid Will Rise Again. nt Dave Bowman Aug 2023 #96
Charlie Daniels said and sang The South's Gonna Do It Again. L-O-S-E czarjak Aug 2023 #97
Stealing this!!!!! SeattleVet Aug 2023 #98
Not at all. Go for it! Aristus Aug 2023 #100
lots of people are Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #101
kicking again Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #99
Thanks. I missed it. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2023 #107
LOL Emile Aug 2023 #104
hey, lookie! mopinko Aug 2023 #105
nice! Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #108
Heh rdchili96 Aug 2023 #112
Takei just shared this on threads. carpetbagger Aug 2023 #113
George, if you're reading this: I'm a great admirer. Aristus Aug 2023 #114
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