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pinkstarburst

(1,810 posts)
11. Texas has 10,000 migrants arriving per day
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 07:03 PM
Dec 2023

across the southern border, I think is the point the poster was making. Texas does not get any notice. Texas does not get asked permission if they would like them to enter. Texas does not get to say please only send this many and only at these times and only at these drop off points.

If our democratic values say that we want to allow these people into the country and help them (and currently they do--we are letting in 10,000 migrants per day across the southern border) then that means they must be immediately moved north to major cities. They cannot linger in southern border states simply because there are always more migrants coming across on the heels of those who crossed the day before. I am no fan of Greg Abbott for sure, but even if we had a democratic governor, the migrants would STILL immediately have to be moved north to major cities as soon as they are given permission to stay pending their immigration hearings.

Immigration is a national issue. When we get angry about busses or planes or southern border states, we are getting angry about the wrong thing. If we want to allow these people in and help them, then that means we have to help them. The vast majority of the people coming in are homeless. They have nothing but the clothes on their backs. They have no support system and no one to take them in, which means they are reliant on US social services, at least at first. It is NIMBYism, plain and simple to say "send the busses somewhere else" or "don't bus them at all" hoping they will simply stay away from your city and the problem will be invisible to you. We as democrats must come up with a solid stance on immigration and it can't be talking out of both sides of our mouth, saying "oh, I support helping immigrants" out of one side of our mouth while out of the other we say "as long as I never have one of those busses show up in my town. Make them all stay in Texas border towns where I never have to see a migrant, or have one in my kids' school, or have my tax dollars used to support them, or have them in my neighborhood."

It's NIMBYism, folks. Stop talking about the busses. Migrants have a right to freely travel. Start talking about more funding for the cities that are supporting migrants. Start talking about guest worker programs and getting migrants work permits as soon as they are granted permission to stay pending their hearings. Those are the conversations we need to be having. Not getting mad that a bus full of migrants showed up in your town.

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IIRC, the migrants have been lied to as to where they were going, and that they'd get work sakabatou Dec 2023 #1
And what do the conspiracy theorists and Fox News hosts want with the border? What is their end game? Initech Dec 2023 #3
Chaos, dissension Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #42
I'm not sure Texas gets notice for every person jimfields33 Dec 2023 #2
Is this even a serious reply? we can do it Dec 2023 #6
Texas has 10,000 migrants arriving per day pinkstarburst Dec 2023 #11
The main problem with our border in Texas Texasgal Dec 2023 #16
This isnt NIMBY xmas74 Dec 2023 #23
But they ignored our advice Polybius Dec 2023 #24
Im worried about purposely sending people to xmas74 Jan 2024 #27
But if they still come though then what? Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #43
My preference is not to send them to NY Polybius Jan 2024 #53
Why would you do that? TxGuitar Jan 2024 #56
I think you misunderstood Polybius Jan 2024 #60
Sorry TxGuitar Jan 2024 #64
Every city in the US has a list of excuses for why they don't want the migrants pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #28
It's not an excuse if theyre being put into a situation xmas74 Jan 2024 #30
What's your plan? pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #31
My plan? xmas74 Jan 2024 #34
I agree with your plan 100% pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #35
I don't blame the border states for the influx xmas74 Jan 2024 #54
People can hate Abbott all they want, but he got everyone's attention that it isn't just a border state problem. n/t MichMan Jan 2024 #55
Can't believe we have people here defending Abbott's actions here Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #58
Ditto! LearnedHand Jan 2024 #59
Two wrongs don't make a right. eShirl Jan 2024 #65
Isn't that the point?? Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #4
Exactly Stuckinthebush Dec 2023 #15
Yup, and it's the exact same reason why the Republican shitheads in Congress GoCubsGo Jan 2024 #29
Empty CPS buildings could be used as shelter. Many have kitchens. LuvLoogie Dec 2023 #5
Despite warning of cold temperatures, migrants choose to come to Chicago MichMan Dec 2023 #7
Or are the news outlets reporting what TX told them? LearnedHand Jan 2024 #61
The reporter had direct quotes from someone at a migrant shelter MichMan Jan 2024 #63
No, but MSM does report the press releases as handed to them LearnedHand Jan 2024 #69
Illinois has water boundaries with the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. roamer65 Dec 2023 #8
Chicago migrants Maninacan Dec 2023 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #19
I see them on street corners here Hangingon Jan 2024 #49
Imagine the chaos in California, Arizona and Texas?? WarGamer Dec 2023 #10
NIMBYism on the part of some. EllieBC Dec 2023 #14
precisely... nt WarGamer Dec 2023 #17
If it's legit Red Mountain Dec 2023 #21
Has Chicago offered to accept all these folks? TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #26
To be fair, no one is handling this well pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #33
Chicago cannot handle 26,000 migrants? pinkstarburst Dec 2023 #12
They might be able to handle it Polybius Dec 2023 #25
Chicago and Illinois welcome the migrants Arazi Jan 2024 #66
can they be sent back to texas? AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #13
Every one WANTED to go to Chicago. WarGamer Dec 2023 #18
Why should they be? Seeking Serenity Dec 2023 #22
What a lovely NIMBY response pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #32
Other major cities do volunteer: "Sanctuary Cities" ... marble falls Jan 2024 #37
since abbbot didnt want to do anything about them and sending them to chicago, isnt that a nimby response . AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #39
I live in Texas and I wouldn't compell anyone not MAGA RW Kneejerk to come here. marble falls Jan 2024 #38
Why? TxGuitar Jan 2024 #40
That is a conversation worth having Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #44
What other states have plans? TxGuitar Jan 2024 #45
It doesn't matter if the Migrants chose to go there Mad_Machine76 Jan 2024 #46
None of that is happening TxGuitar Jan 2024 #47
Let's look at the numbers pinkstarburst Jan 2024 #50
Why? TxGuitar Jan 2024 #57
Kinda off topic but Trashman272 Dec 2023 #20
Yes. Public health organizations avoid being "law enforcement" like the plague ... marble falls Jan 2024 #36
That would be a DHS question. NT TxGuitar Jan 2024 #41
This whole thing is typical NIMBY ripcord Jan 2024 #48
Chaos? They used to call that "patriotism" Turbineguy Jan 2024 #51
Just a good Baptist being a great Christian? czarjak Jan 2024 #52
Abbott could certainly communicate more effectively and efficiently with other state and municipal leaders. Torchlight Jan 2024 #62
feature not glich prodigitalson Jan 2024 #67
Listening to Chicago and NYC whine about the few immigrants they are getting is disgusting ripcord Jan 2024 #68
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