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RandomNumbers

(18,454 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:30 PM Thursday

We need Ranked-Choice voting. [View all]

We keep seeing the same story on an endless loop.

Republicans do something terrible. Democrats are caught between a rock and a hard place.

"Progressives" decide that the hard place is worse than the rock, and swear to punish the Dem electeds who voted for the hard place.

BUT NONE OF THE OPTIONS ARE GOOD.

And, how the FUCK did we get here anyway? Because some people weren't "excited" enough about the Dem candidates, or wanted to "send a message", or some bullshit.

Give people an actual CHOICE to vote for. Make it POSSIBLE for 3rd parties to be on the ballot without playing the "spoiler" role.

Educate the hell out of progressive voters (and anyone else feeling disenfranchised) that their first, second, third choice vote - any vote they cast - MATTERS in such a system. Their vote will TRULY be their voice. When Democrats start seeing the third parties ACTUALLY gaining on them - not the worthless plurality bullshit we have today where third party candidates are simply ignored - THEN they will start listening.

This is NOT and anti-Democrat post. This is a "how to get the Democrats to realize where their support is" post.

/RANT

I am signing off now. I expect this will sink and that's fine. Just had to get it off my chest.

(and no, RCV isn't the complete answer to all our electoral ills. But it would be a good start.)

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We need Ranked-Choice voting. [View all] RandomNumbers Thursday OP
The problem is SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #1
"a desire to punish democrats for not being perfect." OAITW r.2.0 Thursday #3
Not Sanders voters I was thinking of SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #4
Sometimes extreme left meets far right. OAITW r.2.0 Thursday #6
Here in WI in 2016, Stein received more votes that Trump's margin of victory elocs Sunday #17
Horseshoe theory Mountainguy Sunday #24
The only extremists I know in politics are all from the right. OAITW r.2.0 Sunday #28
Well, know them or not Mountainguy Sunday #29
Could you provide names? Because 1 got a huge list of anti-socialists that backed Trump. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #30
luigi mangione Mountainguy Monday #32
Who the fuck is cheering this guy's murder? OAITW r.2.0 Monday #33
I would say "some" 3rd party voters who rationally SHOULD vote D RandomNumbers Friday #10
Honestly SocialDemocrat61 Friday #14
If RCV gets just half of 3rd party voters to vote D as their second choice RandomNumbers Sunday #15
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #19
Let me rephrase. WHEN you get just ONE 3rd party voter RandomNumbers Sunday #20
Unless they put down the republican as their 2nd choice SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #21
Yeah then they weren't going to vote D in the current system anyway RandomNumbers Sunday #22
Sorry but SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #25
It will and it does. In Maine - it's the anti-Paul Lepage voting initiative. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #31
Have it in Maine. Keeps Republicans from running 3rd Party candidates and throwing elections. OAITW r.2.0 Thursday #2
Exactly RandomNumbers Friday #11
But that effectively gives some people 2 votes dickthegrouch Thursday #5
There could be 4 names on a ballot. 1 D, 1R, 1 left indie, 1 right Indie. OAITW r.2.0 Thursday #7
Everybody can rank the same number of candidates. RandomNumbers Friday #12
Here in NYC, ranked choice voting gave us Eric Adams . . . . markpkessinger Friday #8
Well ... there will always be bad people who run for election RandomNumbers Friday #13
Thanks for the replies RandomNumbers Friday #9
Rank choice voting? Maybe in local or state elections, but I doubt we will be having elocs Sunday #16
You have a point. But getting RCV in local and state elections would be a win. RandomNumbers Sunday #23
Is there any data on how well the electorate understands or wants RCV? n/t elocs Sunday #27
By next March, we'll be lucky if there's still any voting at all 0rganism Sunday #18
Do we really need to complicate voting? most don't have a clue how voting works as it is. Srkdqltr Sunday #26
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