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93. These people have to know that some of the numbers will be made public, and they need to have answers ready

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Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:46 AM

Apr 27

If their PAC has distributed $600K in salary, $3 Million expenses, and only $12,600 in candidate contributions, if they don't have rational explanations ready, they are not helping their cause. If they raised $12 million, disbursed 2% of that to the causes they claim to be helping, and over 90% on expenses (a good bit of which will be their own salaries and travel expenses), they had better have solid reasons to back these numbers. The concept of "out with the old, in with the new," even by their own definition was supposed to refer to the makeup of the Democratic caucus in the House, not the names of occupants of hotel suites.

About 20 years ago, Bill Clinton was talking to some people about the costs involved in some aid programs, citing that expenses ate up about 25% of the budget while he was in office, and about 4% now that he was overseeing similar programs as a charity. One of his small audience asked why the expenses were so much higher when they were being directed by the government, and he answered without hesitation, "because we were stupid, that's why!"

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David Hogg is being paid a six figure salary by his PAC and may be using DNC emails to raise money for this PAC [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Apr 24 OP

he said he was gonna spend $20 mil but do not recall him providing the source of the money nt msongs Apr 24 #1

I believe the source is his pac Leaders We Deserve Meowmee Apr 25 #38

A large salary, indeed. It looks to be three times the salary Nixie Apr 26 #68

Like "If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire too" -- also complaining about Democrats! betsuni Apr 26 #69

I just got a text $$$ solicitation from Hogg and that was the Nixie Apr 27 #75

I have receive the same text and several Hogg emails LetMyPeopleVote Apr 27 #99

Sad is a great word for it. He sounds so unprofessional and Nixie Apr 27 #112

His emails and texts remind me of the Justice Democrats emails and texts LetMyPeopleVote Apr 27 #113

Agreed with everything you say. It's been 10 years of this Nixie Apr 28 #122

Waste of ten years fighting an imaginary enemy and wallowing in cynicism and negativity. betsuni Apr 28 #129

I am not sure what the salary is for house and senate etc. it could be similar for some Meowmee Apr 26 #70

I think Congressional reps salaries are right around $175,000/yr. Nixie Apr 27 #76

Where did you see 600k? Meowmee Apr 27 #78

It was in a string of tweets posted here. It also had a link to Nixie Apr 27 #79

lol, it's in this thread we're posting in -- in LetMyPeopleVote's Nixie Apr 27 #80

That is I think for more than dh, I read somewhere on financial info on the pac and Meowmee Apr 27 #92

Thanks for this info. Nixie Apr 27 #96

If you look at 2024 FEC his payroll for 2024 was a bit more than $128,000. Nanjeanne Apr 29 #153

Keep your eyes on the prize........... Lovie777 Apr 24 #2

So what! Do you think he's the only one? Sewa Apr 24 #3

I'll tell you what's wrong. Primarying sitting Dems with another Dem doesn't get us... brush Apr 24 #6

Refusing to do so gets the 2024 results iemanja Apr 24 #15

It's not that hard to understand. Subbing one Dem for annother gets us 2024 all over again. brush Apr 24 #16

Approval of Democrats is at an all-time low iemanja Apr 24 #17

Again, replacing Dems with other Dems does not gain the majority. brush Apr 24 #18

Is your point that it's a lost cause? iemanja Apr 24 #21

I wonder how they feel about primarying progressives with centrists. Emile Apr 27 #100

New blood does not a competent leader make Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #28

I think it's a case by case basis iemanja Apr 25 #30

Older Democrats? sheshe2 Apr 25 #40

Oh sure, pushing out sitting Dems instead of funding races against vulnerable rethugs... brush Apr 25 #59

A huge disappointment. The messaging is what the GOP eats up Nixie Apr 25 #50

So true. brush Apr 25 #58

And then said the election was rigged. Sigh. It's "GroundHogg Day" forever. betsuni Apr 27 #81

I disagree sboatcar Apr 25 #53

Disagree all you want, but getting the majority is the priority or trump will continue... brush Apr 25 #57

See post 86. brush Apr 27 #87

What are they supposed to do exactly? ShazzieB Apr 29 #149

I don't think that follows. Buzz cook Apr 27 #85

Again, not complicated. Why not use that money to fund Dem candidates. brush Apr 27 #86

Bob Menendez was a proven winner. Buzz cook Apr 27 #88

So what, he was a crook. A Dem replaced him. Zing! Missed the point. Melendez was in the Senate. brush Apr 27 #90

A democrat replaced a democrat. Buzz cook Apr 27 #108

One thing you missed. Primarying sitting Democrats who've proven they can win... brush Apr 27 #109

Agreed ILikePie92 Apr 24 #9

(1) If others are doing the same, point them out. W_HAMILTON Apr 25 #34

Excellent Points.. TY, W HAMILTON! Cha Apr 25 #43

What the fuck is wrong with Mountainguy Apr 25 #35

What is your definition of an "Institutionist Democrat"? sheshe2 Apr 25 #42

Same as Establishment but being "anti-institutionist" isn't really a thing and doesn't have the groovy '60s betsuni Apr 25 #54

Primary out those that vote with trump, or who are silent in this fight for our democracy. Bravo. rich7862 Apr 25 #51

Please list all the Democrats that are voting with trump. sheshe2 Apr 27 #77

If one Democrat has a nightmare wherein they vote with Trump and wake up screaming... betsuni Apr 27 #82

Weird...I never got that list I politely asked for.🤔 sheshe2 Apr 27 #114

The dog ate the list. betsuni Apr 28 #120

I want to see this list also LetMyPeopleVote Apr 27 #98

Still waiting.🤔 sheshe2 Apr 27 #115

Where is this list? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 29 #137

Whataboutism at its very finest. GaYellowDawg Apr 25 #52

A self created PAC where they only spend 2.2% of donations on candidates, but others do it too so its OK? krawhitham Apr 26 #72

Apparently you don't know the DNC is about nuetrality and raising money for all Dems... brush Apr 27 #84

lol, how did the DNC work in 2016 Sewa Apr 27 #110

LOL yourself. Seems you're one of those who think trump won that election legitimately. brush Apr 27 #111

At $27 a-pop... fundraising can be very profitable. Oopsie Daisy Apr 24 #4

"I am once again asking you"... sheshe2 Apr 25 #41

🤣😂👍️ Exactly! Oopsie Daisy Apr 25 #45

Looks like ILikePie92 Apr 24 #5

Oh ILikePie92 Apr 24 #7

See post #6. brush Apr 24 #10

No. It looks like David's knives are out and people are wondering, Nixie Apr 27 #95

I read that post...scrolled down to respond... sheshe2 Apr 27 #116

Hi she! Thanks for that. Always good to see you. ❤️ Nixie Apr 28 #121

David is in power, a leadership position, the establishment. betsuni Apr 27 #97

Obviously ILikePie92 Apr 27 #102

And? betsuni Apr 27 #103

Or? ILikePie92 Apr 27 #105

Oh snap! sheshe2 Apr 27 #117

Has to hold his own feet to the fire, fight the power of himself, speak truth to himself, when he's betsuni Apr 28 #118

Troubling nt delisen Apr 24 #8

Just put "the people" or "grassroots" in front of money and it's pure while everyone else's is a bribe from Satan. betsuni Apr 24 #11

Post removed Post removed Apr 24 #12

No it's not. Obama received a record amount of money from Wall Street. Did he refuse to sign betsuni Apr 24 #13

Is this the supposed reason he wants Democrats to stand up to fascism iemanja Apr 24 #14

Al Green stood up Keepthesoulalive Apr 24 #29

Obviously the point isn't to primary everyone. iemanja Apr 25 #31

No I don't Keepthesoulalive Apr 25 #37

Another grifter mcar Apr 24 #19

There was a video on here yesterday with Brian Tyler Cohen and David Hogg..A good question n answer Deuxcents Apr 24 #26

His PAC raised $11.9 million. $10.7 million went to "administrative expenses" mcar Apr 25 #60

I just get texts, not so much emails. ananda Apr 24 #20

Lot of people here sure hate David. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 24 #22

He seems to be good at dividing Dems MorbidButterflyTat Apr 25 #32

He is not the one dividing Democrats. Celerity Apr 25 #46

Actually Hogg is the one dividing Democrats. lapucelle Apr 26 #73

Are we pretending there weren't problems in 2016? Because there were. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 29 #158

Who's "we"? lapucelle Apr 29 #160

There's no way around it Mysterian Apr 27 #106

Well, if it's in a tweet, we know it's fact. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 29 #159

Keep your head in the sand Mysterian Apr 30 #163

Lots of people also find their opinions verified by a tweet. It appears his salary according to FEC filing Nanjeanne Apr 29 #154

I'm confused these tax forms are from 2024 MagickMuffin Apr 24 #23

Isn't 2024 the most recent tax year? MichMan Apr 25 #48

The post said last month, last time I checked that would be Mar 2025 MagickMuffin Apr 25 #63

That post you are referring to is dated June 18 2024. MichMan Apr 25 #66

What does the DNC Chair position pay again? Genuinely curious. flvegan Apr 24 #24

Waiting for the pivot of his PAC's mission statement, from getting a variety of young Democrats into office, to... LudwigPastorius Apr 24 #25

If I knew that over 95% of donations to a PAC went to staff & overhead, and less than 5% was used for the stated purpose MichMan Apr 24 #27

it's quite a grift, to put it charitably fujiyamasan Apr 25 #39

Donald Segretti had a term for people who set out to undermine Democrats. n/t valleyrogue Apr 25 #33

Yes I learned of his salary from the pac about 2 weeks ago Meowmee Apr 25 #36

Did you contribute to his PAC after receiving his passionate plea? MichMan Apr 25 #47

LOL no I deleted the emails and replied to one saying please remove me etc., and unsubbed etc. Meowmee Apr 25 #64

He's learned quick how to make money in politics. William769 Apr 25 #44

Who is funding the PAC? JustAnotherGen Apr 25 #49

You are right, that is very important. JohnSJ Apr 25 #55

I guess that the technical term is 'suckers' Jose Garcia Apr 25 #61

This kid claudette Apr 25 #56

there are lots of jobs that require you... mike_c Apr 25 #62

It's pretty common among grifters. W_HAMILTON Apr 25 #65

Another greedy grifter. 😡 🤬nt Raine Apr 26 #67

Kick JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #71

2.2% of the money raised by Hogg's PAC went to candidates (that is not a good return) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 26 #74

How does a 200k salary compre to other PACs? Buzz cook Apr 27 #83

The issue is that only 2% of the funds donated to the PAC actually go to those it claims to be supporting MichMan Apr 27 #94

Still doesn't tell me what Back Seat is. Buzz cook Apr 27 #107

Where do you see only 2%. I see 27.8% given to contributions to federal, state, national and local candidates, Nanjeanne Apr 29 #145

The OP ? MichMan Apr 29 #147

Oh the tweet. Not the actual numbers. Nanjeanne Apr 29 #148

Hogg mad you mad enough to go to the dark side of Twitter to do your research? Ilikepurple Apr 27 #89

Unfortunately I've seen this before with not for profits fujiyamasan Apr 27 #91

These people have to know that some of the numbers will be made public, and they need to have answers ready DFW Apr 27 #93

David Hogg needs replaced. Duncanpup Apr 27 #101

Disagree ILikePie92 Apr 27 #104

No we don't Keepthesoulalive Apr 28 #126

I disagree ILikePie92 Apr 28 #130

How many young people is he registering to vote Keepthesoulalive Apr 28 #132

Just because ILikePie92 Apr 28 #134

He announced and I have not seen a list Keepthesoulalive Apr 28 #135

Again, just because ILikePie92 Apr 29 #136

I'm asking for a list. Keepthesoulalive Apr 29 #140

Incumbents are not challenged by member of the party organization LetMyPeopleVote Apr 29 #138

Naive ILikePie92 Apr 29 #139

What happened in 2016, exactly? Who are the "party elite" -- do you mean David Hogg? betsuni Apr 29 #141

Coy, eh? Okay ILikePie92 Apr 29 #143

How did the DNC favor candidates? When? What exactly did they do? betsuni Apr 29 #144

Post removed Post removed Apr 29 #146

"including his salary"--- so exactly how much was his salary? Jack Valentino Apr 28 #119

Well someone gave me the link to the FEC disbursements and 2024 it adds up to a bit over $128,000. Nanjeanne Apr 29 #152

Agreed. The original story seemed to want to make it look as if Jack Valentino Apr 29 #162

The real beneficiary of this fight between David Hogg and the @DNC is the Republicans LetMyPeopleVote Apr 28 #123

Lies about Democrats being corrupt, rigging, bribed, doing nothing, not progressive, both sides only helps Republicans. betsuni Apr 28 #124

looks like David Hogg is making out too, he gets DNC pay too. brush Apr 28 #128

It's always disheartening to watch Torchlight Apr 28 #125

On top of his DNC salary? Looks like vice-chair Hogg is cleaning up and using DNC's name and resources at the same time. brush Apr 28 #127

I'm confused - where are people seeing David Hogg's actual salary. Because all I can see in this tweet is some Nanjeanne Apr 28 #131

FEC site has disbursement details MichMan Apr 29 #150

Thanks. So 2024 was a bit over $128,000. From the OP I thought the salary was outrageous. Thanks for Nanjeanne Apr 29 #151

OP said "a six figure salary" MichMan Apr 29 #155

Ah yes so true. I just thought it would be high based on the outrage. Nanjeanne Apr 29 #156

Who needs David Hogg when we have the Justice Democrats primarying good Democrats? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 28 #133

I wonder why they despise and fear the Democratic Party so much and Republicans rarely brought up. betsuni Apr 29 #142

And so? Jilly_in_VA Apr 29 #157

On the grift...like his mentor. nt LexVegas Apr 29 #161

Have gotten several texts from him. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 30 #164