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DFW

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28. Putin is not a total idiot.

Mon Apr 28, 2025, 03:35 PM

Apr 28

If I remember correctly, the Ukraine gave its nukes back to the Soviet leadership, what was left of it, and that was Putin. Obviously, they thought they'd never need them again, and if Putin had not been possessed of ambition of rebuilding the Soviet Empire, the Ukrainians would have been right. For someone who has been a sly strategist elsewhere, Putin certainly made a major blunder when he assessed the local resistance to being re-absorbed into the Empire. Just like Cheney and Rumsfeld with Iraq: "maybe six days, maybe six weeks, certainly not six months." Подумаете ещё раз, там, товарищи (better think about that again, there, comrades).

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Another day, another nuclear threat from russia. [View all] Crunchy Frog Apr 27 OP

Russia has always lied and threatened and bluffed...go for it Pooti, you and your S*** Hole country... wcmagumba Apr 27 #1

I would personally love to see several thousand troops from various NATO countries Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #2

Trump would support Russia over Europe iemanja Apr 27 #3

Of course he would. notinkansas Apr 27 #6

US citizens do not control the military. iemanja Apr 27 #7

Yes D_Master81 Apr 27 #11

Pakistan also made a nuclear threat to India. roamer65 Apr 27 #4

It seems to be the in thing right now. Glad that Trump has made the world so much safer. Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #12

'Unfriendly actions' SheltieLover Apr 27 #5

Part of you wishes that would happen, so they can be wiped off the face of the Earth? To do that, how many would die? Doodley Apr 27 #8

I know it's not rational or nice, but I can't help having those kinds of feelings, so yes, Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #13

I wonder if the Russians would consider an armed attempt to take over their country to be an "unfriendly action." DFW Apr 27 #9

Maybe the best course is to give Ukraine back the nukes they had & gave up to make Russia less 'fearful' of them Attilatheblond Apr 28 #26

Putin is not a total idiot. DFW Apr 28 #28

The Soviet Union was completely gone by then. Crunchy Frog Apr 29 #29

The Soviet Union was just the Russian Empire by another name DFW Apr 29 #30

Of course I agree that the USSR was simply a new iteration of the russian empire, but Crunchy Frog Apr 29 #31

They may call it WW3 Tickle Apr 27 #10

The unfortunate lesson is that Ukraine should never have given up its nukes SamuelTheThird Apr 27 #14

Your statement at the end is one of the most ill-conceived I have read here since I joined DU 7 years ago. It's madness: Celerity Apr 27 #15

It's a fantasy, not an actual wish or agenda. It's not about wanting Europe destroyed, Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #16

You said 'Honestly, a part of me wishes'. That's absolutely fucked up. It is also delusional as you seem to think the US Celerity Apr 27 #18

Yeah, fantasies are kind of delusional by definition. I see plenty of nasty fantasies expressed here, including Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #19

If this attitude catches on here & starts to be regularly expressed on this board, I'm getting the fuck off of DU. Celerity Apr 27 #17

I'm sorry I enraged you so much. The hate was intended to be directed towards russia and not Europe. Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #20

Please don't condescend to me. Celerity Apr 27 #21

I hate weed too, though lots of people on here seem to really like it. Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #22

Wow, you guys sure went at it. EndlessWire Apr 28 #23

I don't know... fujiyamasan Apr 28 #24

Oh, FFS. EndlessWire Apr 28 #25

Thank you. I think you articulated my position better than I could. Crunchy Frog Apr 28 #27