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Texas State officials, the organizers of the summer camp appear to be at fault. [View all] WarGamer Jul 5 OP

These Texas officials are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. Next they'll be saying the young girls should Silent Type Jul 5 #1

The local yocals look like the Texas cops sitting on their thumbs watching the school shooting WarGamer Jul 5 #2

Like Buford T reference. Right now Gov Abbot is on signing a request for fed help and he has Kristi Noem by his side. Silent Type Jul 5 #3

"The government was created to serve people" says Noem. applegrove Jul 5 #4

Or that the weather report came from a woman, mcar Jul 5 #6

+1. Forgot about that one. Silent Type Jul 5 #8

The campers were already there - these were residential summer camps. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #44

Yes. As popular as that camp is, authorities should have made sure they were notified. Apparently, they weren't. Silent Type Jul 6 #61

Supposedly- lots of kids camps were between sessions womanofthehills Jul 6 #62

The thing I can't figure out, given the known volatility of area is why there were cabins that close to the river. Biophilic Jul 5 #5

Exactly Rebl2 Jul 5 #9

Why does anyone put any structure close to a body of water? Renew Deal Jul 5 #19

Im sure they would have built over the pretty river , if they could. People do. Srkdqltr Jul 6 #54

Because the greedy never learn malaise Jul 5 #31

They should have had an evacuation plan, and followed it RandomNumbers Jul 6 #55

Same thing happened in 1987 and 10 died in a camp bus dwayneb Jul 6 #59

Interesting - the next girl's camp up the river had all their cabins up on high cliffs womanofthehills Jul 6 #60

The director died in the floods Demovictory9 Jul 5 #7

I heard that earlier..a perfect scapegoat, isn't it? Only Camp Mystic was founded in 1926 Deuxcents Jul 5 #10

Trump and his pals always try to blame someone else. Kingofalldems Jul 5 #12

It's one in 100, not one in 1000 - Ms. Toad Jul 6 #46

Ten teens died in 1987 flood of river womanofthehills Jul 6 #64

Nope. Trump is responsible. Kingofalldems Jul 5 #11

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BTW I was just reading... no technology is allowed at the camp. WarGamer Jul 5 #24

so Camp Mystic would not have heard the warnings whenever they were issued RussBLib Jul 5 #35

that's a real problem... WarGamer Jul 5 #38

not sure if anyone had a satellite phone RussBLib Jul 5 #39

The Texas Legislature BigMin28 Jul 6 #52

I'm assuming the administrators would have some means of contact... regnaD kciN Jul 5 #42

That's sounding much more likely as the root cause pinkstarburst Jul 6 #51

That camp has been there for 100 years..literally Melon Jul 5 #13

For those that don't know Texas Rowdyag Jul 5 #14

Kerrville is 100 miles away from Uvalde. TheProle Jul 5 #15

Yeah Kerr County sheriff is a republican. Kingofalldems Jul 5 #21

There is another christian camp close to Uvalde, but not Camp Mystic MagickMuffin Jul 5 #34

and for both the floods and the Uvalde shootings, the local agencies are busy blaming someone else DBoon Jul 6 #56

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Did they use the emergency broadcast system to send messages to phones? Renew Deal Jul 5 #18

My son lives about 30 miles east of that area and he told me today there were flash flood warnings on tv Deuxcents Jul 5 #20

Camp Mystic likely did not have cell service LeftInTX Jul 6 #43

weather radios don't rely on cell service pstokely Jul 6 #49

All NWS flash flood warnings trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts dalton99a Jul 5 #25

There is no cell service in that area. LeftInTX Jul 6 #45

You would wonder if they had a weather radio pinkstarburst Jul 6 #57

Did they even have a weather radio? pstokely Jul 6 #48

i am sure the local authorities were doing their best Tetrachloride Jul 5 #26

Apparently the camp is "technology-free" WarGamer Jul 5 #27

a friend of mine attended a technology free camp last year Tetrachloride Jul 5 #29

or a weather radio pstokely Jul 6 #50

Hmm...at 4am and 5am in the morning, if someone wasn't up watching the news they would have missed Baitball Blogger Jul 5 #28

No the Accuweather Warning was 1245 the NWS warning 115am WarGamer Jul 5 #30

Well, in Florida, when we were in a flood area for Hurricane David, Baitball Blogger Jul 5 #32

absolutely... but this was truly out in the middle of nowhere. WarGamer Jul 5 #33

Somehow, I don't think that seclusion Baitball Blogger Jul 5 #36

No, it's not in the middle of nowhere. Texasgal Jul 5 #40

And no one was allowed cell phones... WarGamer Jul 5 #41

Golly! I wonder if there was any precedent that could have foretold such flooding. Norrrm Jul 5 #37

Don't they have overnight security? Buckeyeblue Jul 6 #47

At 1 AM claudette Jul 6 #53

With 700 kids in camp? Someone better be awake. travelingthrulife Jul 6 #58

But no one claudette Jul 6 #65

The USGS has more streamflow stations on this river and its tributaries than most places in the US. waterwatcher123 Jul 6 #63

What an interesting thread. Kingofalldems Jul 12 #66