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In reply to the discussion: Texas State officials, the organizers of the summer camp appear to be at fault. [View all]dalton99a
(89,834 posts)25. All NWS flash flood warnings trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/05/texas-hill-country-floods-warning-forecast-nws/
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The forecast began to look ominous in Texas Hill County on Thursday afternoon.
A flood watch was issued by the National Weather Service at 1:18 p.m. that predicted up to 7 inches of isolated rainfall early Friday morning in South Central Texas, including Kerr County.
By the time the sun rose on the Fourth of July, less than 24 hours later, as much as 12 inches of rain had fallen in parts of the region while its residents were asleep, according to NWS radar estimates. The Guadalupe River gauge at the unincorporated community of Hunt, where the river forks, recorded a 22-foot rise in just two hours, said Bob Fogarty, meteorologist with the NWS Austin/San Antonio office. The gauge recorded a level of 29 ½ feet before becoming completely submerged and failing, Fogarty added.
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Rain began to fall around midnight, and the first flash flood warning was issued by the NWS at 1:14 a.m. Friday, Fogarty said. That warning should have triggered a response by local emergency management and local media to spread the word to those in harm's way, as well as the Emergency Alert System that broadcasts warnings to televisions and radios, Fogarty said.
All NWS flash flood warnings, including the one issued after midnight on Friday, trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts, the emergency push notification sent through cellphone towers to all wireless phones in the emergency area, Fogarty said. That warning was updated nine times throughout Friday, each of which triggered separate alerts through the Emergency Alert System and the Wireless Emergency Alerts, Fogarty said.
The most serious warning came at 4:03 a.m. when the NWS issued a flash flood emergency, warning of an extremely dangerous and life-threatening situation and urging immediate evacuations to higher ground. Flash flood emergencies are issued using a mixture of rainfall data and on-the-ground reports: Someone has told us we need to get people out of here immediately or people are going to die, Fogarty said.
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The forecast began to look ominous in Texas Hill County on Thursday afternoon.
A flood watch was issued by the National Weather Service at 1:18 p.m. that predicted up to 7 inches of isolated rainfall early Friday morning in South Central Texas, including Kerr County.
By the time the sun rose on the Fourth of July, less than 24 hours later, as much as 12 inches of rain had fallen in parts of the region while its residents were asleep, according to NWS radar estimates. The Guadalupe River gauge at the unincorporated community of Hunt, where the river forks, recorded a 22-foot rise in just two hours, said Bob Fogarty, meteorologist with the NWS Austin/San Antonio office. The gauge recorded a level of 29 ½ feet before becoming completely submerged and failing, Fogarty added.
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Rain began to fall around midnight, and the first flash flood warning was issued by the NWS at 1:14 a.m. Friday, Fogarty said. That warning should have triggered a response by local emergency management and local media to spread the word to those in harm's way, as well as the Emergency Alert System that broadcasts warnings to televisions and radios, Fogarty said.
All NWS flash flood warnings, including the one issued after midnight on Friday, trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts, the emergency push notification sent through cellphone towers to all wireless phones in the emergency area, Fogarty said. That warning was updated nine times throughout Friday, each of which triggered separate alerts through the Emergency Alert System and the Wireless Emergency Alerts, Fogarty said.
The most serious warning came at 4:03 a.m. when the NWS issued a flash flood emergency, warning of an extremely dangerous and life-threatening situation and urging immediate evacuations to higher ground. Flash flood emergencies are issued using a mixture of rainfall data and on-the-ground reports: Someone has told us we need to get people out of here immediately or people are going to die, Fogarty said.
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Texas State officials, the organizers of the summer camp appear to be at fault. [View all]
WarGamer
Jul 5
OP
These Texas officials are pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. Next they'll be saying the young girls should
Silent Type
Jul 5
#1
The local yocals look like the Texas cops sitting on their thumbs watching the school shooting
WarGamer
Jul 5
#2
Like Buford T reference. Right now Gov Abbot is on signing a request for fed help and he has Kristi Noem by his side.
Silent Type
Jul 5
#3
Yes. As popular as that camp is, authorities should have made sure they were notified. Apparently, they weren't.
Silent Type
Jul 6
#61
The thing I can't figure out, given the known volatility of area is why there were cabins that close to the river.
Biophilic
Jul 5
#5
Interesting - the next girl's camp up the river had all their cabins up on high cliffs
womanofthehills
Jul 6
#60
I heard that earlier..a perfect scapegoat, isn't it? Only Camp Mystic was founded in 1926
Deuxcents
Jul 5
#10
and for both the floods and the Uvalde shootings, the local agencies are busy blaming someone else
DBoon
Jul 6
#56
My son lives about 30 miles east of that area and he told me today there were flash flood warnings on tv
Deuxcents
Jul 5
#20
Hmm...at 4am and 5am in the morning, if someone wasn't up watching the news they would have missed
Baitball Blogger
Jul 5
#28
The USGS has more streamflow stations on this river and its tributaries than most places in the US.
waterwatcher123
Jul 6
#63