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NNadir

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6. I disagree emphatically. Nuclear energy is the only acceptable form of energy.

Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:26 AM

Jul 10

The destruction associated with so called "renewable energy" is appalling.

This was clear over a century ago, as I noted over in the Environment and Energy forum last night with reference to the total destruction of the Hetch Hetchy valley, the "little Yosemite" in 1923.

The Diablo Canyon nuclear reactors in California routinely produce, on a 12 acre footprint, more energy per year than all the wind turbines in California spread over more than a thousand square miles of trashed desert landscape. All of those wind turbines will be inoperable landfill before today's newborns graduate from college.

The belief on our end on the political spectrum that so called "renewable energy" is either sustainable or clean is, regrettably our equivalent of their creationism. That is to say, it is dogma unconnected with reality.

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This is good news for renewable energy [View all] Old Crank Jul 10 OP

G.O.P. will hate on this BoRaGard Jul 10 #1

GOP response, vibrations from turbines killing dolphins. Emile Jul 10 #2

And are making the whales gay! newdeal2 Jul 10 #9

And the Dolphins transsexual airplaneman Jul 10 #16

😱😱 electric_blue68 Jul 11 #21

😱 electric_blue68 Jul 11 #20

I get the riff on the windmills, but it isn't silly to expect that some marine impact studies would be done... hlthe2b Jul 10 #12

However, so called "renewable energy" isn't good news for the planet. NNadir Jul 10 #3

It was time to wake up years ago MadameButterfly Jul 10 #4

I disagree emphatically. Nuclear energy is the only acceptable form of energy. NNadir Jul 10 #6

The opposite is likewise true: the oil/gas industry (esp TX) is increasingly reliant on wind/solar for oil field pumps. hlthe2b Jul 10 #13

Bullshit. They don't stop pumping when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining. NNadir Jul 10 #14

I never said they did. Bullshit right back to you! Tell it to Reuters and others reporting on it. hlthe2b Jul 10 #15

Abuse is what pro-fossil fuel posters do, it's their schtick... Think. Again. Jul 11 #28

Oh, look, it's Mr Atoms. I do reserve the right to change my mind about nuclear power, but not so far. electric_blue68 Jul 11 #23

There are people who care to see, and people who love being blind. I am, of course, know which I have chosen to be. NNadir Jul 11 #25

nuclear is the way forward purple_haze Jul 10 #5

It is definitely ONE OF the clean energy technologies we will need to transition to. Think. Again. Jul 11 #29

Current human population is 8.2 billion. multigraincracker Jul 10 #7

Bingo we have a winner. The Elephant in the room airplaneman Jul 10 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 11 #19

Yep, humanity is overcrowding the planet like an invasive species. Think. Again. Jul 11 #30

If we don't, nature has a way of doing it for us. multigraincracker Jul 11 #40

I agree... Think. Again. Jul 12 #43

Ironically, Nixon was the last president to make a major statement about the population problem. thought crime Jul 11 #33

Didn't President Jimmy Carter Mtnmama Jul 10 #8

They were solar water heating panels. NBachers Jul 10 #11

Yup. 😤 Duppers Jul 10 #18

I was marching for renewables back in the mid 1980's. Effing Ray-gun. electric_blue68 Jul 11 #22

What is the cost ....... dumbcat Jul 10 #10

Don't know. Since this was a pilot project. Old Crank Jul 11 #27

I understand ... dumbcat Jul 11 #35

The cost is CO2-free, is there any other consideration right now? Think. Again. Jul 11 #31

If you actually want things built .... dumbcat Jul 11 #34

I disagree... Think. Again. Jul 11 #36

Yeah, let's save the world by trashing it. hunter Jul 11 #24

How is this trashing it? Old Crank Jul 11 #26

Once upon a time that bit of ocean was a wild place. hunter Jul 11 #37

So nukes leave no environmental footprint.? Old Crank Jul 11 #38

Fission works. It's long "off the ground." The technology is well established... hunter Jul 11 #42

The only other option is to drastically reduce power consumption across the board... Think. Again. Jul 11 #32

That would be good. Old Crank Jul 11 #39

Great news... except to the Windmill Cancer Cluster Kooks. Torchlight Jul 11 #41