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Beastly Boy

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88. There was a lot more you said which was far more hostile, but between those two statements,

Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:57 PM

Jul 12

the second one is an intentionally false accusation . Israel consistently throughout its history coveted peace more than land, and in fact gave up two thirds of its land for peace. "Land grab" is a fantasy.

This is an indisputable fact. You've been repeatedly informed of it. I wouldn't call your willful disregard of this fact Jew hatred, but it certainly shows bias against Israel with defamatory intent. If you consider this less insulting, be my guest.

The same goes for exclusively one-sided criticism of Israel's action in Gaza, particularly attributing to Israel the consequences of actions committed by Israel's enemies, while leaving them entirely out of your criticism. Jew hatred? Not quite. Extreme prejudice? No comment.

You are free to speak as you please, and I am free to call you out on what you say. This goes equally for everyone. Accountability comes with free speech. Own it.

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Antisemitism Is an Urgent Problem. Too Many People Are Making Excuses. [View all] Beastly Boy Jul 11 OP

Sharing the full article for those who do not have a subscription - link below cliffside Jul 11 #1

Thank you LetMyPeopleVote Jul 12 #90

I just rejoined my synagogue Mossfern Jul 11 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 11 #4

Not your right to decide this LearnedHand Jul 11 #5

What a foolish post DavidDvorkin Jul 11 #6

It's a synagogue, not a religion Mossfern Jul 11 #7

Our church survived on freewill donations, not dues Grolph_ Jul 11 #8

How are dues not freewill donations? Beastly Boy Jul 11 #12

Why are you arguing with me? Mossfern Jul 11 #17

Exactly. lostincalifornia Jul 12 #29

Ever heard of a tithe? Mountainguy Jul 12 #22

Goodie for you. intheflow Jul 12 #78

Ever been to a Catholic Church? DET Jul 11 #10

The nuns at my Catholic school, Our Lady of Perpetual Need, would hand out letters to take home to our parents sop Jul 12 #56

The deposit at the front of our home town church pwb Jul 19 #113

Certainly true, I just wonder how much is anti-semitic vs. just any "other". Seems Trump has made "other' the scapegoat dutch777 Jul 11 #3

There is a chart included in the article. Beastly Boy Jul 11 #9

The rise in hate crimes against Jews has me worried LetMyPeopleVote Jul 12 #91

There is NO anti-semitism from the "far left" maxrandb Jul 11 #11

Did an antisemite tell you all this? Beastly Boy Jul 11 #13

Some blind people see anti-semitism EVERYWHERE maxrandb Jul 11 #15

I certainly see antisemitism where some blind people don't. Beastly Boy Jul 11 #19

Right you are, BB... PCIntern Jul 12 #27

Me too cabotnn22 Jul 12 #66

Absolutely. The statement that "there is no antisemitism on the far left" is a validation of the OP. lostincalifornia Jul 12 #33

It is a ridiculous claim, BB mcar Jul 12 #73

Mahalo, BB.. Perfectly said. Cha Jul 13 #108

Anybody chanting from the river to the sea is anti-Semitic EdmondDantes_ Jul 11 #18

Was it antisemitic when it was first used (that being by Israeli Zionists)? Celerity Jul 12 #25

In that the people living there were also semitic, yes EdmondDantes_ Jul 12 #39

Is the DSA considered "far left"? sarisataka Jul 12 #21

This is untrue misinformation and existentially stupid maxrandb Jul 12 #26

Speking of existentially stupid: how quickly people forget. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #36

Rec'd a gazillion times! Mossfern Jul 12 #50

That's like saying the people that marched across the Edmund Pettis Bridge maxrandb Jul 12 #64

Ridiculous. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #69

That makes no sense mcar Jul 12 #75

That DSA statement is disgusting - and pure anti-semitism mcar Jul 12 #74

Ah ha... Thanks for the DSA pictues of Cha Jul 13 #109

"AOC denounces anti-Semitism at pro-Palestinian rally" lapucelle Jul 12 #60

Yes she did sarisataka Jul 12 #82

Untrue? sarisataka Jul 12 #81

Whoa... "the lady doth protest too much" Arazi Jul 12 #57

Tell that to the Jewish students mcar Jul 12 #71

Cringe egduj Jul 13 #106

The far right and far left bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Jul 11 #14

The Reich would like nothing more than for people to believe that bullshit maxrandb Jul 11 #16

No, not both sides. All sides. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #32

Roght! Sure Jan. maxrandb Jul 12 #35

These constant deflections are tiresome. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #41

They have to deflect, because that is their only defense for what is happening right before their eyes. lostincalifornia Jul 12 #51

It is "effing" political! maxrandb Jul 12 #37

Are you still talking about antisemitism, or are you just still talking? Beastly Boy Jul 12 #43

No, I am just curious maxrandb Jul 12 #48

You are so obsessed that there is no antisemitism from the left, that you have become blind to it. lostincalifornia Jul 12 #46

I think the RW is simply less interested in hiding their bigotry Torchlight Jul 12 #49

Right? We all saw President Obama's stasi police force, didn't we? maxrandb Jul 12 #54

It does not follow Torchlight Jul 12 #63

Oh, it does follow maxrandb Jul 12 #65

You're crafting your arguments to oppose that no one else is asserting Torchlight Jul 14 #112

Some quick comments: Aussie105 Jul 12 #20

And what if they support them? Mountainguy Jul 12 #23

I am assuming nothing. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #31

Neat setup you got there maxrandb Jul 12 #42

Oh gawd... not again... Beastly Boy Jul 12 #45

You are all over this OP mcar Jul 12 #79

Can you give me a clear, concise, and accurate definition of antisemitism? I am confused. sinkingfeeling Jul 12 #58

This is the most widely accepted deinition of antisemitism, not how I define it, but Beastly Boy Jul 12 #59

I asked how you experience antisemitism. sinkingfeeling Jul 12 #62

You asked me for the definition of antisemitism. You got it. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #68

Beastly Boy Cha Jul 13 #110

Excellent comment. To take it further - RandomNumbers Jul 13 #105

To quote one of the top-rated comments on this column BeyondGeography Jul 12 #24

That is an excuse antisemites routinely use when they come out from under a rock. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #30

Do you support Netanyahu? intheflow Jul 12 #34

WTF? What's with all the deflecting? Beastly Boy Jul 12 #38

Now, it's antisemitism in America? maxrandb Jul 12 #44

Enough with the random replies. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #47

Did you think it was about the left Mossfern Jul 12 #67

Some people here defended shit EllieBC Jul 12 #96

Many American Jews agree with that commenter, who is also an American Jew BeyondGeography Jul 12 #40

This is not a popularity contest. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #53

The problem is our own eyes. pwb Jul 12 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 20 #114

Is it possible to criticize Israel and NOT be called an anti-semite or harbouring "Jew hate"? AloeVera Jul 12 #52

Is it possible to acknowledge the full scale of antisemitism in America without deflecting to Beastly Boy Jul 12 #55

Not as long as false charges of anti-semitism are used to silence us. AloeVera Jul 12 #80

Nobody is silenceing you. You are welcome to show how any charges of antisemitism are false, Beastly Boy Jul 12 #84

Palestinian lives matter too. AloeVera Jul 12 #86

There was a lot more you said which was far more hostile, but between those two statements, Beastly Boy Jul 12 #88

You accuse me of what you yourself do. AloeVera Jul 12 #92

What is patently absurd about Israel giving Sinai back to Egypt for a peace treaty? Beastly Boy Jul 12 #93

In the Land of Land Grabs, I mean Israel... AloeVera Jul 12 #94

It wasn't a selfless magnanymous gesture. It was land for peace. Beastly Boy Jul 12 #95

What people are overlooking is the double standard sarisataka Jul 12 #83

Yeah you'd have been destroyed if you dared EllieBC Jul 12 #97

Great post. Celerity Jul 12 #61

+1 leftstreet Jul 12 #77

It seems to me Mossfern Jul 12 #70

I think they absolutely understand what they are doing. lostincalifornia Jul 12 #72

Oh, they understand allright! Beastly Boy Jul 12 #76

This same delusional and virulently antisemitic worldview proclaims Hamas to be later day Nelson Mandelas tritsofme Jul 12 #85

This! lapucelle Jul 12 #87

Wow! Lots of visual aids! Behind the Aegis Jul 12 #89

Mandy Patinkin has an interesting take on what is causing the increase in antisemitism. . . Stargleamer Jul 13 #98

He has a point, but not as a response to the OP. Beastly Boy Jul 13 #99

True, but pouring gasoline on a fire does result in significantly more destruction. . . Stargleamer Jul 13 #100

Sorry, this sounds too much like excusing antisemitism for my taste. Beastly Boy Jul 13 #102

There is more destruction when gasoline is poured on a fire. . . Stargleamer Jul 13 #104

That's what I thought about your comment, not what Mandy Patinkin said. Beastly Boy Jul 13 #107

It's become very widespread. Elessar Zappa Jul 13 #101

The problem with the majority of progressives I have is not them being antisemitic. Beastly Boy Jul 13 #103

Rec'd Mossfern Jul 13 #111