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In reply to the discussion: Family that moved to Russia for "trad" values followup: Husband being sent to the Ukraine frontline [View all]Ms. Toad
(37,298 posts)111. While it doesn't speak about US recruits, it does include many who are unlikely to speak Russian.
The BBC Russian Service has established that by the end of December 2023 at least 254 foreigners who served in the ranks of the Russian army had been killed (see «Год мясорубок»: что нам известно о потерях России в Украине за 2023 год). At the same time, however, it is impossible to determine even an approximate number of foreigners fighting for the Kremlin. Foreign nationals have served both in mercenary groups (mainly in the Wagner Group before its dissolution) and in regular units of the Russian Armed Forces.
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Foreigners fighting for Russia include citizens of Cuba, Nepal, Syria, Serbia, Afghanistan, Somalia and Malaysia. Their total number is probably in the thousands. Russia uses various methods for recruiting foreign soldiers. In Cuba and Nepal (Moscow has recruited several hundred individuals in both these two states), groups involved in enlisting foreigners (including by using deceit) and transporting them to Russia have been broken up. The Cuban government has adopted an ambiguous approach which suggests its tacit approval of this practice. The foreign ministry has distanced itself from involvement in these activities and condemned the enlistment of mercenaries, while the Cuban ambassador to Moscow stated that Havana did not object to the participation of Cuban nationals in the war in Ukraine as long as it is legal. The government of Nepal, for its part, has prohibited its citizens from seeking employment in Russia and Ukraine, and requested Moscow to send the conscripted Nepalese nationals and the bodies of those killed back to Nepal.
In Syria Russia has most likely conscripted just a few hundred new soldiers, contrary to reports suggesting that several thousand individuals volunteered for military service in the Russian army. The Ukrainian war enlistment campaign was likely carried out with the backing of the Kremlin-friendly Bashar al-Assad regime. The fighters enlisted mainly came from the governments troops; these may include the elite 25th Special Mission Forces Division and the Liwa al-Quds brigade made up of Syrian Palestinians, whom the Russians had previously trained to fight against the internal opposition and Islamic State.
Around a hundred Serbian nationals are also fighting on Russias side, including at least some who have justified their involvement in ideological reasons (a group of such individuals took part in the war in Ukraine back in 2014). Despite Belgrades pro-Russian sentiments and its restrained stance on the invasion, President Aleksandar Vučić has announced that Serbian mercenaries will face legal consequences, and has indirectly criticised Moscow.
The Kremlin has also attempted to enlist former soldiers of Afghan security forces who left Afghanistan following the Taliban takeover.
The Somali citizens who have been forcibly enlisted into the Russian army (there are at least eight such individuals) are an element of a bigger group which was arrested for violating passport regulations (these people attempted to enter the European Union from Belarus and Russia, the countries which have been putting migration pressure on the EU borders). Moscow has also conscripted foreigners who were serving sentences in Russian prisons; this is how individual citizens of Tanzania, the Ivory Coast and Zambia were incorporated into the Wagner Group.
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Foreigners fighting for Russia include citizens of Cuba, Nepal, Syria, Serbia, Afghanistan, Somalia and Malaysia. Their total number is probably in the thousands. Russia uses various methods for recruiting foreign soldiers. In Cuba and Nepal (Moscow has recruited several hundred individuals in both these two states), groups involved in enlisting foreigners (including by using deceit) and transporting them to Russia have been broken up. The Cuban government has adopted an ambiguous approach which suggests its tacit approval of this practice. The foreign ministry has distanced itself from involvement in these activities and condemned the enlistment of mercenaries, while the Cuban ambassador to Moscow stated that Havana did not object to the participation of Cuban nationals in the war in Ukraine as long as it is legal. The government of Nepal, for its part, has prohibited its citizens from seeking employment in Russia and Ukraine, and requested Moscow to send the conscripted Nepalese nationals and the bodies of those killed back to Nepal.
In Syria Russia has most likely conscripted just a few hundred new soldiers, contrary to reports suggesting that several thousand individuals volunteered for military service in the Russian army. The Ukrainian war enlistment campaign was likely carried out with the backing of the Kremlin-friendly Bashar al-Assad regime. The fighters enlisted mainly came from the governments troops; these may include the elite 25th Special Mission Forces Division and the Liwa al-Quds brigade made up of Syrian Palestinians, whom the Russians had previously trained to fight against the internal opposition and Islamic State.
Around a hundred Serbian nationals are also fighting on Russias side, including at least some who have justified their involvement in ideological reasons (a group of such individuals took part in the war in Ukraine back in 2014). Despite Belgrades pro-Russian sentiments and its restrained stance on the invasion, President Aleksandar Vučić has announced that Serbian mercenaries will face legal consequences, and has indirectly criticised Moscow.
The Kremlin has also attempted to enlist former soldiers of Afghan security forces who left Afghanistan following the Taliban takeover.
The Somali citizens who have been forcibly enlisted into the Russian army (there are at least eight such individuals) are an element of a bigger group which was arrested for violating passport regulations (these people attempted to enter the European Union from Belarus and Russia, the countries which have been putting migration pressure on the EU borders). Moscow has also conscripted foreigners who were serving sentences in Russian prisons; this is how individual citizens of Tanzania, the Ivory Coast and Zambia were incorporated into the Wagner Group.
https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2024-02-20/putins-foreign-legion-foreigners-fighting-war-ukraine
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Family that moved to Russia for "trad" values followup: Husband being sent to the Ukraine frontline [View all]
jmbar2
Tuesday
OP
Something is fishy about this. There is a language barrier unless these fools speak Russian.
brush
Tuesday
#65
Please, the N. Koreans were army units sent by their government. This is not the same thing.
brush
Tuesday
#75
Sad. I guess some are gullible enough. One family in Canada, one here. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.
brush
Tuesday
#93
The Canadian Family has boys who are teen and pre-teen so let's see what happens to them in the near future.
Bev54
Tuesday
#101
All I know is, even with trump's crap, I still prefer living here than in Putin's Russia.
brush
Tuesday
#131
The US, Canada and European countries don't have an ex-KGB megaloniacal leader who starts wars...
brush
Tuesday
#129
The N. Koreans were N. Korean army units, not at all the same thing. And learning a language takes...
brush
Tuesday
#91
While it doesn't speak about US recruits, it does include many who are unlikely to speak Russian.
Ms. Toad
Tuesday
#111
You can find their updates on youtube under countryside acres the Feenstra family
Bev54
Wednesday
#136
They've thrown of the tyranny of All Things Considered & Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Torchlight
Tuesday
#4
Be a real shame if he gets snuffed by trump's new policy change on arming Ukraine
Hassin Bin Sober
Tuesday
#10
Yes. Russian NRA 'honeypot' Maria Butina is promoting this as a member of the Russian Parliament
emulatorloo
Tuesday
#34
Wow, they moved there in early 2025 and he's already been drafted & sent to the front lines?
tanyev
Tuesday
#11
Hey, it's a job in a place totally without social security nets or a free market economy.
Hugin
Tuesday
#68
"I want to contribute and earn our place here by serving in the Russian army."
dalton99a
Tuesday
#15
" ... moving to Russia and enlisting in the military is a good life plan is already exhibiting poor thinking skills."
Botany
Tuesday
#31
The North Koreans in Ukraine have a 33% casualty rate and any Russian who is spotted now is
Botany
Tuesday
#38
The morons can't grasp: Some people are WIRED DIFFERENTLY & how dare you be arrogant enough TO JUDGE OR MISTREAT THEM?
lostnfound
Tuesday
#23
I have no doubt that the 3 young girls will grow up hating and resenting their parents
FakeNoose
Tuesday
#61
And how long do they think they can keep the children ignorant about things outside their bubble?
tanyev
Tuesday
#48
Moscow is cleaner and safer because anything else gets you dead. What an inspiration.
mucholderthandirt
Tuesday
#63
I wonder if any of the friends and family who supported their move are also considering making the same move?
mwmisses4289
Tuesday
#40
It would be supremely ironic if his daughter turns out to be LGBTQ after all this.
jmbar2
Tuesday
#79
Thanks, I did find their youtube channel, their son is getting big, might be drafted soon.
Bev54
Wednesday
#135
Ultimate FAFO. I am so sorry they thought things would be better in the Russia ...
marble falls
Tuesday
#90