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PCIntern

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Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:30 AM Friday

As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say [View all]

That I have something to expound:

I am a dentist who worked standing up my entire career of essentially 50 years including schooling. When I was about 45-50 I began developing thin varicosities near my ankle of my left foot, likely because I utilized my right foot to activate the pedal for the handpieces and thus leaned heavily to the left. Things were stable until I was 63 years of age and I received an insect bite on my left leg halfway down my shin. My leg acutely swelled up such that I took myself to the ER thinking it might well be a blood clot and the physicians felt the same way.

After multiple tests and sonograms they posited that the insect bite caused my lymphatics to open wide and because I had been, for want of a better word, abusing my leg, all the vessels of my limb were now likely permanently somewhat dilated. Sure enough, my left leg is slightly to somewhat swollen at the end of every day and it is nearly totally relieved in the morning when I awaken. I live with this and accept it: better than many of my comrades who suffer horrendous back pain from sitting and twisting/leaning for decades.

Other than my foot and lower aspect of my ankle, I show no signs of this condition. Now here’s the thing: to render this diagnosis definitively I had the following to rule out more serious illness: weekly leg sonograms for four weeks, treadmill stress test, PET scan stress test, sonogram of my heart, and three or four other tests including blood tests every 90 days. They distinctly informed me that since I had no other symptoms and the tests were essentially negative across the board, that this is LIKELY my diagnosis.

I don’t have ecchymosis of my hands, I don’t have swollen legs bilaterally, I do not have pallor, and I don’t exhibit many of the outward signs and symptoms which President Orangina does. But here’s the point: I eat relatively healthily, am active all day in terms of movement, I am not grossly overweight, I do not need for whatever reason to put makeup on my hands, and people tell me I look well for a male of my genetic background who’s over 70. And yet I have a condition which arguably is relatively minor as things go, but a condition of cardiovascular disease nonetheless.

I am of the absolute near-certain opinion that given the outward visualization of this guy, the docs and the handlers sat down and decided that the absolute most benign condition which could be diagnosed from his appearance alone was chronic venous insufficiency. My considered professional diagnosis after viewing over seventy thousand patients in my career is “No Fucking Way”.

As a coda, please allow me to say that if in fact this were true, then it woukd be the first time in which they told the truth about anything. The odds are low on that score in my estimation.

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Great post Prairie Gates Friday #1
kick Baitball Blogger Friday #2
A very valuable perspective! benfranklin1776 Friday #3
I equate it to a person who had been poisoned, beat to death and death certificate stating "Heart Stopped" when LiberalArkie Friday #22
Apt analogy! 🙌🏼 benfranklin1776 Friday #42
Or better yet, from an actual Arkansas case of a body found down the road from me LiberalArkie Friday #51
Seriously? the coroner put that on the death certificate?😲🙄 mwmisses4289 Friday #60
Yep, during the Clinton administration. We had a lot of shady stuff going on.. LiberalArkie Friday #63
OMG you have GOT to post that story. Was Trump the coroner? Callie1979 Friday #77
I believe this was back in 1992. There was a lot going on in Arkansas at that time and sadly very little on internet LiberalArkie Friday #82
I'm thinking CHF. We shall see. flying_wahini Friday #4
If you have CHF your body retains fluid. That means the whole body, right? Katinfl Friday #12
Due to a failing heart, I had fairly severe fluid retention. BobTheSubgenius Friday #33
I've had CHF for ca 10 yrs now; I'm 10+ yrs older than That Person. No Vested Interest Friday #81
outstanding! NJCher Friday #83
Me too Deep State Witch Friday #28
That's my best guess. A lot of those symptoms are plainly visible. Pacifist Patriot Friday #44
It has never occured to me KentuckyWoman Friday #5
My mother got varicose veins as a result of all the time she spent on her feet as an RN. Ocelot II Friday #14
Baghdad Barbie described Trump's chronic venous insufficiency as Ocelot II Friday #6
Ed Zachary (exactly) PCIntern Friday #7
Maybe Timewas Friday #9
I still say he's probably diabetic (the reason for Diet Coke all the time). llmart Friday #65
Actually Timewas Friday #73
Because he is at stage 3, at a minimum, more likely stage 4 (of 6) Ms. Toad Friday #34
Not to mention, if he isn't at least prediabetic TexasBushwhacker Friday #38
Way too many people have bought into the idea that weight and diabetes are inherently linked. Ms. Toad Friday #47
100% True.... sdfernando Friday #49
Mattel recently released diabetic Barbie. soldierant Friday #92
MTM had type 1 diabetes. ShazzieB Saturday #93
Thanks for the info/nt sdfernando Saturday #100
Fair enough n/t TexasBushwhacker Friday #50
My ex was diabetic. llmart Friday #66
"Strongly" isn't "always" Ms. Toad Friday #67
I don't understand ... Mossfern Friday #69
With an A1C of 6.2, your average blood glucose is around132. Ms. Toad Friday #71
Heart not related Mossfern Friday #79
Fret away, then. Ms. Toad Friday #87
Thank you, my dear PCIntern! VERY well said. CaliforniaPeggy Friday #8
Soooo... we should expect that his ankles should not be swollen at times - usually in the morning? ihaveaquestion Friday #10
Not necessarily. Ms. Toad Friday #35
The odds are very low in deed. flashman13 Friday #11
A question about your condition. Old Crank Friday #13
Yes but I have trouble wearing them PCIntern Friday #18
I get that Old Crank Friday #21
I switched the compression stockings to normal knee-heighth soccer (football) socks. erronis Friday #26
😂😂😂😂 PCIntern Friday #58
I don't feel as 'constricted' and they are cotton which is more comfortable than that spandex/nylon/whatever. erronis Friday #64
I don't wear mine either. Same reason. yardwork Friday #55
There is little doubt he has mutliple things going on. His paraphasias, disorientation, wide right leg swing, hlthe2b Friday #15
Ty for sharing SheltieLover Friday #31
I can't remember which year it was, but Trump's physicals in his first term were mostly lies. Lonestarblue Friday #16
6'3" and 224lbs?!? (imagine me snorting in derision) mwmisses4289 Friday #62
I have cardiovascular disease and have had pulmanary embolisms 3 times in my 82 years appleannie1 Friday #17
I'm a little younger - but had a PE (from birth control) -- TBF Friday #70
I believe its symptom of his heart failing nowforever Friday #19
As an RN with 37 years working in a hospital TNNurse Friday #20
Will cult members start stuffing the tops of their socks with Kleenex? Grumpy Old Woman Friday #23
Would not surprise me at all. nt Callie1979 Saturday #99
Yes, whatever they're admitting to the reality is far worse. BannonsLiver Friday #24
Thanks for that explanation. milestogo Friday #25
My first thought when I read "chronic venous insufficiency" AllyCat Friday #27
Right...he has chronic venous insufficiency, but they aren't saying from what. PortTack Friday #29
Thank you for the info! I agree... FirstLight Friday #30
;-{) Goonch Friday #32
Yikes! Any ideas about this poor abused shoe? Bluebelle76 Friday #74
on another thread NJCher Friday #84
The odd-looking shoes are on account of his cloven hooves. Ocelot II Friday #88
Thank you! great post! mountain grammy Friday #36
Of the issues I have with TACOman, this is the least of them. progressoid Friday #37
it is important NJCher Friday #86
So the upshot is... swong19104 Friday #39
If you're asking for advice Warpy Friday #40
Actually I wasn't but thanks anyway PCIntern Friday #45
I'm actually a lot more concerned about his mental illness Bluetus Friday #41
I don't have your level of expertise, but I have just enough medical knowledge to have reached the same Vinca Friday #43
howdi. AllaN01Bear Friday #46
Yeah, they totally lied. lark Friday #48
He deserves to receive evil thoughts and words JustAnotherGen Friday #53
Heart failure seems likely, but diagnosis would require truth and science... pat_k Friday #52
I suspected they came up with the "mildest" diagnosis mcar Friday #54
Nice school there. PCIntern Friday #56
Some of my husband's former students mcar Friday #57
Satan clearly isn't ready for him yet Bluestocking Friday #59
Great post. There's no way the just did all the testing you detailed underpants Friday #61
Thank God. We finally have some hope Saoirse9 Friday #68
Sadly for us, even if it is some stage of heart failure... pat_k Friday #72
Always recall that JD Vance is current VP; I do not want to wish him as Pres. of USA No Vested Interest Friday #78
Yes, likely Congestive Heart Failure (CHF). BlueWavePsych Friday #75
I totally agree with this statement: CrispyQ Friday #76
'Long COVID" can cause Vascular issues. mackdaddy Friday #80
My sil's grandmother always had swollen ankles, (from the first time we met 20 years ago) and she always cksmithy Friday #85
Rumor has it the doctors gave him 6 months Sessuch Friday #89
I'm sure that's 6 months too many for Melania dflprincess Friday #91
NoShit.,,nt pbmus Friday #90
The fact that there even was a health report on TSF tells me: Aussie105 Saturday #94
Maybe his bone spurs need be removed jimmy the one Saturday #95
I'm a retired nurse tavernier Saturday #96
Thank you for this post! EuterpeThelo Saturday #97
If it were so benign, stollen Saturday #98
Exactly... PCIntern Yesterday #101
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