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In reply to the discussion: Why are Trump and the GOP Working So Hard to Ruin America? [View all]SARose
(1,687 posts)2. White Conservstives think democracy doesn't work for them
The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.
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So the great unwashed are simply not capable enough of governing themselves. In fact, some conservatives would tell you they dont want people who rent to vote or people who dont have children (JD) shouldnt vote or people with funny names. Only the educated, landed gentry should govern.
Ummmkay - we had a Civil War in the 1860s over this.
Who does this sound like?
No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?
― George Orwell, Animal Farm
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Because Trump works for Russia, the Fossil Fuel Industries, Saudi Arabia, and he is deeply mentally ill.
Botany
Saturday
#10
Because they saw this election as their last chance for complete and total control, which they believe now they have,
Karasu
Saturday
#16
They want to collapse all government protections and functions to take over and rule us like peasants
kimbutgar
Saturday
#19
Re-arranging the deck chairs as humanity faces a cascade of environmental and social calamities
PufPuf23
Saturday
#26
"And of course this is just a partial list......."!!! I was exhausted by the time I got to this line, thinking to.....
FadedMullet
Saturday
#31
It's simple, greed and power with no consequences. Until there are consequences for their actions and we as a people
Cheezoholic
Saturday
#35
They and the 1% will gain even more money and power. That's all they care about. It's an illness.
Fil1957
Saturday
#38
I think it has to do with Trump's desire to control everything, and his decisions
Ocelot II
Saturday
#41
My amateur theory is they're destroying the middle class because they don't need it anymore
FullySupportDems
Saturday
#55
The usual "rational" explainations are no longer "rational" as the actions you describe will only create devastation and
LT Barclay
Saturday
#58
And why did millions of people vote for this? Oh yeah...because the FUCKING CORPORATE MEDIA enabled
progressoid
Sunday
#60
re: "Why would Trump and the GOP..." - I think it is important to distinguish the two...
thesquanderer
Sunday
#68