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Showing Original Post only (View all)Post by an RN: he has congestive heart failure [View all]
Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:47 PM - Edit history (3)
I usually can't agree with people who say how sick he looks, but this one has me convinced, especially with all the other RNs in the thread agreeing. I especially like the "stage 4 pitting edema". Apparently pretty far along.
JVD is probably jugular vein distension.
ETA: I don't believe that this should be taken as gospel. This, and other, observations by RNs, NPs, etc. are just educated guesses. (A respected poster thinks this is irresponsible and I should delete. But there are so many professionals in agreement, that I think it's worthwhile.)
2nd edit: trying to be responsible, here's a contrary take from a physician:
- I agree it could be CHF (and would be nice karma), but venous insufficiency-related peripheral edema cannot be distinguished easily from HF-related edema without the rest of the exam or echocardiogram findings (filling pressures, systolic and diastolic function). The data is insufficient for us to make the diagnosis. So while your suspicion is plausible it is not enough for the diagnosis. -A physician
Okay, not a diagnosis.
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Yep. When repubs were offering remote diagnoses of Teri Schiavo, we correctly mocked them.
onenote
Saturday
#53
It's possible they noticed something in his hand, maybe after handshaking, which we've all seen him do.
scipan
Saturday
#5
Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would
hlthe2b
Saturday
#6
I don't want to be irresponsible. Not sure if you are a doctor or work in healthcare, but
scipan
Saturday
#11
Heaven help us! If he suddenly dies (which seems not only possible but probable) we get a worse monster.
CTyankee
Sunday
#84
You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health?
misanthrope
Sunday
#94
OK. I am not a medical professional, and my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, but . . .
colorado_ufo
Saturday
#34
Equal swelling and not just the legs are also noted by professionals in that thread 🧵.
scipan
Saturday
#40
Well there's a limit to what they can do. Worst case, he goes to the front of the line for a heart xplant like Cheney. N
scipan
Saturday
#48
If it is not possible to diagnose something without an in-person examination then no one...
3catwoman3
Saturday
#54
I have a BA in English, and I believe that qualifies me to diagnose him as a vile fuckhead
Orrex
Saturday
#60
Oh yea you can diagnose from a distance. As a retired nurse, I called it years ago. It's CHF.
flying_wahini
Sunday
#77