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hlthe2b

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6. Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would

Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:56 PM

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deign to diagnose as this nurse has done so emphatically. Rather (and I have done this), we discuss the possibilities and other symptoms he has manifested in the past, which may make one or another diagnosis (or multiple) more likely.

This emphatic attempt at diagnosis from someone NOT qualified is irresponsible as hell (I likewise would say the same for any commenting physician doing similarly, rather than merely talking in generalities and positing POTENTIAL rule-outs).

Please refrain from disseminating this kind of irresponsibility.

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Post by an RN: he has congestive heart failure [View all] scipan Saturday OP

You can't diagnose anyone from a distance TnDem Saturday #1

No, it doesn't. Scrivener7 Saturday #4

Yes. It most certainly does. See my post downstream. hlthe2b Saturday #7

Yep. When repubs were offering remote diagnoses of Teri Schiavo, we correctly mocked them. onenote Saturday #53

Exactly JCMach1 Saturday #18

Of course... Escape Saturday #23

What you can't diagnose is why the dog has 3 legs EdmondDantes_ Saturday #30

Really? TnDem Saturday #35

Exactly ...nt Raine Yesterday #69

Probably not enough to kill a cockroach. Silent Type Saturday #2

I've seen no evidence of pitting edema. Ms. Toad Saturday #3

It's possible they noticed something in his hand, maybe after handshaking, which we've all seen him do. scipan Saturday #5

He doesn't have any significant edema in his hands. Ms. Toad Saturday #14

Good points. Maybe they were wrong or maybe they saw that at a different time. scipan Saturday #37

Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would hlthe2b Saturday #6

I don't want to be irresponsible. Not sure if you are a doctor or work in healthcare, but scipan Saturday #11

More replies scipan Saturday #13

Nope TnDem Yesterday #74

Heaven help us! If he suddenly dies (which seems not only possible but probable) we get a worse monster. CTyankee Yesterday #84

Put a disclaimer in the OP. Not gospel, just educated guesses. But so many. scipan Saturday #32

You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health? misanthrope Yesterday #94

Do not tease me malaise Saturday #8

Haha! Right?! babylonsister Saturday #15

Hi there malaise Saturday #19

He can't have congestive heart failure and or a brain tumor BigmanPigman Saturday #9

For that matter, he seems to be lacking in courage, as well. n/t Morbius Saturday #12

I was going to write that, too. BigmanPigman Yesterday #65

We'll never know the truth Oeditpus Rex Saturday #10

I can see Ronnie Jackson's report now... Shipwack Saturday #26

You can have congestive heart failure for nine years? Demobrat Saturday #16

With the right medicine Lulu KC Saturday #22

I see. Of course Trump has access to the world's Demobrat Saturday #25

True, but this is different synni Saturday #41

Yes. I've seen it for 13. /nt bucolic_frolic Saturday #24

Congestive heart failure life expectancy Wiz Imp Saturday #29

It can go undiagnosed for decades synni Saturday #43

Yes. Texasgal Yesterday #91

The Last Responders are standing by Historic NY Saturday #17

You Tube doctors do this type of evaluation all the time bucolic_frolic Saturday #20

YouTube doctors? TnDem Yesterday #75

lol bucolic_frolic Yesterday #76

I've been around it with my dad. roamer65 Saturday #21

Hope 💩. Dies B4 He Can Do a Cheney MrWowWow Saturday #27

I hoped at the time, and still do, that Cheney's donor was not a Democrat. 3catwoman3 Saturday #51

Well he has acute pantload disease at the very least. CentralMass Saturday #28

Not commenting on the diagnosis except markodochartaigh Saturday #31

You're correct, thanks. Correcting in the OP. Nt scipan Saturday #38

Anyone that has/had a loved one Billsdaughter Saturday #33

Foley catheters create their own problems Deminpenn Saturday #57

He's a classic blue bloater. Scrivener7 Yesterday #73

OK. I am not a medical professional, and my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, but . . . colorado_ufo Saturday #34

Equal swelling and not just the legs are also noted by professionals in that thread 🧵. scipan Saturday #40

tsf not golfing is the tell. rubbersole Yesterday #67

Reading the comments in the Thread - gave me a warm feeling (smiling). Dan Saturday #36

I was a caregiver for multiple CHF patients synni Saturday #39

Oh that would be too bad... scipan Saturday #42

He will get the best care qazplm135 Saturday #44

Well there's a limit to what they can do. Worst case, he goes to the front of the line for a heart xplant like Cheney. N scipan Saturday #48

this is a good discussion but bottom line - Nigrum Cattus Saturday #45

I guess Vance could break Teddy Roosevelt's record... ITAL Saturday #46

Regardless, it could still be good news. 3825-87867 Saturday #47

I like the way you think. scipan Saturday #49

I agree...it isn't ethical or accurate to diagnose based on photos... Trueblue Texan Saturday #50

He has a heart? That's news to me. Dave Bowman Saturday #52

If it is not possible to diagnose something without an in-person examination then no one... 3catwoman3 Saturday #54

My diagnosis: Zorro Saturday #55

Standard medical procedure: Aussie105 Saturday #56

Less golfing. scipan Saturday #58

Anyone can claim they are RN on the internet, I wouldn't get my hopes doc03 Saturday #59

But greater than 10 in the thread? scipan Saturday #62

I have a BA in English, and I believe that qualifies me to diagnose him as a vile fuckhead Orrex Saturday #60

Of COURSE he knows he's on borrowed time. no_hypocrisy Saturday #61

Remember Trump's first annual physical Deminpenn Saturday #63

Here's an article cally Yesterday #88

Thanks was just about to post the same link Deminpenn Yesterday #89

More links to the prior heart issues from 2018 Deminpenn Yesterday #90

The make-up is the weird thing Bluetus Yesterday #64

He definitely has some cardio/circulatory problem he's being treated for indusurb Yesterday #66

I, for one, do not CARE what he has, so long as he quits wasting oxygen. niyad Yesterday #68

Hear, hear! Hugin Yesterday #71

+1 dalton99a Yesterday #83

Worthless "diagnosis" ... nt Raine Yesterday #70

Love one of the posts - Sending Clots and Prayers! GoneOffShore Yesterday #72

Oh yea you can diagnose from a distance. As a retired nurse, I called it years ago. It's CHF. flying_wahini Yesterday #77

Be nice to have comment from MD Bluestocking Yesterday #78

Interesting post that you presented in a very balanced way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #79

I don't care what's wrong with him; but it's apparent that something is, Ocelot II Yesterday #80

It could be CHF, but I wouldn't bet on it Jersey Devil Yesterday #81

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #82

Perfect! Nt scipan Yesterday #86

My spouse and a friend got over the ankle swelling once their HBP got under control wishstar Yesterday #85

Frankly Greg_In_SF Yesterday #87

I learned things. Demobrat Yesterday #92

This is what I was coming to post, sort of misanthrope Yesterday #93

Problem with people like Trump...Hell doesn't want them. Xolodno 22 hrs ago #95