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Bernardo de La Paz

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2. Yes on gloves, yes on teeth, but "take no prisoners" does not work in the long run

Reply to Lonestarblue (Original post)

Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:33 AM

Jul 20

Take no prisoners is a prominent characteristic of tRump's negotiating style, which is why they have 1 1/2 deals in 90 days. Take no prisoners is why Mike Johnson's caucus is so fractious and unmanageable. Take no prisoners is why, despite all the lies and bots and flimflammery and racism and misogyny, tRump won by a razor thin popular vote and a razor thin House.

Obama did not win by taking no prisoners. Obama is a much more effective negotiator than tRump. Obama won by "Yes We Can" and building a ground game with a positive forward-looking movement behind it. ACA was one result.

Yes to thinking outside the box and being a bit unconventional.

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To defeat Trump, the left must learn from him [View all] Lonestarblue Jul 20 OP

Democrats are not naturally inclined to believe outrageous lies like the Republicans are Walleye Jul 20 #1

I don't think that's what the article is about. paleotn Jul 20 #10

True, whatever means necessary to restore our democracy is correct but Walleye Jul 20 #17

Yes on gloves, yes on teeth, but "take no prisoners" does not work in the long run Bernardo de La Paz Jul 20 #2

We the People somethingshiny Jul 20 #3

The Democrats might consider becoming the Rushmore Americans DFW Jul 20 #4

"Trump has gotten to where he is not by being an acolyte of Republican orthodoxy but by being a heretic." J_William_Ryan Jul 20 #5

Absolutely. He's the logical end of decades of Republican bullshit. paleotn Jul 20 #12

Fuck that noise. More people turning against MAGA everyday. emulatorloo Jul 20 #6

You confuse tactics with content. They're not the same thing. paleotn Jul 20 #13

I appreciate you posting this, but I've read so many articles like this over the last ten years and EarlG Jul 20 #7

Thank you Earl. emulatorloo Jul 20 #8

I feel kinda bad that my post is such a downer, so let me add this EarlG Jul 20 #16

To defeat Trump, Americans need to stop validating and normalizing Trump WSHazel Jul 20 #9

By next summer the great cause will be their pocketbook. dalton99a Jul 20 #11

People act on their feelings not their thoughts. Phoenix61 Jul 20 #14

Leading Dems to water once again. I have my doubts they'll drink even this time. paleotn Jul 20 #15

The difference as I see it is Tree Lady Jul 20 #18