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Raven123

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77. They are not working hard at all.

Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:29 AM

Jul 20

The viability of America under the Constitution is fragile and requires people of good will to be in leadership. It’s resilience has been weekend by changes such as Citizens United and Senate rules making passage of just about any legislation requiring 60 votes which are not what the Constitution intended. The GOP exploiting a system that has allowed a critical mass of Maligant Anti-Government Antibodies to attack and overwhelm it.

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Why are Trump and the GOP Working So Hard to Ruin America? [View all] thomhartmann Jul 19 OP

2025? 1WorldHope Jul 19 #1

Project 2025, specifically electron_blue Jul 20 #81

White Conservstives think democracy doesn't work for them SARose Jul 19 #2

They think Democracy doesn't work for them because BaronChocula Jul 19 #17

Conservatives & democracy: Dulcinea Jul 19 #25

A good articulated insight Gum Logger Jul 20 #82

K&R markie Jul 19 #3

It's the Republican dystopian view of America. J_William_Ryan Jul 19 #4

This. And they want to go WAY back... ananda Jul 19 #23

Agreed on the underestimating of climate change misanthrope Jul 19 #50

It's hard to see how it could not. ananda Jul 19 #52

What you have described is the antebellum South misanthrope Jul 19 #54

Money, power, cruelty. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #5

they know they can manipulate cowards. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 19 #6

Don't know why but... moondust Jul 19 #7

sounds right. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #14

Egoism Ping Tung Jul 19 #8

We make the mistaken assumption that there is a Gaugamela Jul 19 #9

if you are accustomed to privelege MadameButterfly Jul 19 #33

works for me! Native Jul 20 #84

Because Trump works for Russia, the Fossil Fuel Industries, Saudi Arabia, and he is deeply mentally ill. Botany Jul 19 #10

Christo Fascist agenda, as you said Alice Kramden Jul 19 #21

In my humble opinion OddMom20 Jul 19 #11

Moral collapse of society, engendered by the right wing dedl67 Jul 19 #12

DAMN good question. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #13

Money:More is never enough. multigraincracker Jul 19 #15

Because they saw this election as their last chance for complete and total control, which they believe now they have, Karasu Jul 19 #16

I've been puzzling over this for awhile... jmbar2 Jul 19 #18

They want to collapse all government protections and functions to take over and rule us like peasants kimbutgar Jul 19 #19

Turning America into a shithole country poli-junkie Jul 19 #20

it's not just trump kbowman Jul 19 #22

Chaos - they need chaos to fully loot the country alittlelark Jul 19 #24

Re-arranging the deck chairs as humanity faces a cascade of environmental and social calamities PufPuf23 Jul 19 #26

Putin gave them a deadline. blm Jul 19 #27

Short answer: They're working for our enemies. Iggo Jul 19 #28

Anyone know when they will raise the Russian flag over the WH?? vapor2 Jul 19 #53

All of the above, Mr. Hartmann, and as usual, B.See Jul 19 #29

Most likely the second one. Dulcinea Jul 19 #30

"And of course this is just a partial list......."!!! I was exhausted by the time I got to this line, thinking to..... FadedMullet Jul 19 #31

6th grade teacher Blue Full Moon Jul 19 #32

I'm amazed people are still confused - Nigrum Cattus Jul 19 #34

You don't think that whathehell Jul 19 #48

It's simple, greed and power with no consequences. Until there are consequences for their actions and we as a people Cheezoholic Jul 19 #35

Trump is a malignant narcissist MadameButterfly Jul 19 #36

Trump is somewhat similar to 'The Mule' in Asimov's "Second Foundation" dedl67 Jul 19 #39

He will eventually alienate everyone MadameButterfly Jul 19 #44

Everything has always been about him malaise Jul 19 #37

They and the 1% will gain even more money and power. That's all they care about. It's an illness. Fil1957 Jul 19 #38

When they have to spend all their money on security MadameButterfly Jul 19 #45

I've struggled with this question too.... Bread and Circuses Jul 19 #40

I think it has to do with Trump's desire to control everything, and his decisions Ocelot II Jul 19 #41

Trump's desire to control comes from MadameButterfly Jul 19 #46

The perfect storm seabiscuit5920 Jul 19 #42

They want to make their current control permanent MadameButterfly Jul 19 #47

Hollywood bmichaelh Jul 19 #43

Trump realizes very little MadameButterfly Jul 19 #49

Had to laugh at the 1939 cinema reference misanthrope Jul 19 #56

Short answer: Money and Power. emulatorloo Jul 19 #51

My amateur theory is they're destroying the middle class because they don't need it anymore FullySupportDems Jul 19 #55

On some various levels his reasons are likely of all of the above. Bev54 Jul 19 #57

The usual "rational" explainations are no longer "rational" as the actions you describe will only create devastation and LT Barclay Jul 19 #58

Authoritarianism pervades American society iemanja Jul 19 #59

"The rich hate us" blubunyip Jul 20 #66

And why did millions of people vote for this? Oh yeah...because the FUCKING CORPORATE MEDIA enabled progressoid Jul 20 #60

Hatred and greed. niyad Jul 20 #61

i'm currently going for "private equity hostile takeover" rampartd Jul 20 #62

Putin told Trump... GiqueCee Jul 20 #63

This!!! Excellent & a must read Joinfortmill Jul 20 #70

Because they're not running a government, they're running a chop shop hatrack Jul 20 #64

the killing of the American dream..... Historic NY Jul 20 #65

My first thought was this is the making of feudalism Joinfortmill Jul 20 #67

re: "Why would Trump and the GOP..." - I think it is important to distinguish the two... thesquanderer Jul 20 #68

Serfs and barons is the social order they are intent on establishing. lark Jul 20 #69

Must destroy democracy to roll out the New Feudalism Kid Berwyn Jul 20 #71

At the pinnacle of wealth and power The Blue Flower Jul 20 #72

K&R spanone Jul 20 #73

It's natural to want to want to find out one big reason that explains it all jgmiller Jul 20 #74

Their corporate owners devoutly believe in this: TygrBright Jul 20 #75

Don't forget to include the MAGA voters. They started this mess. nt Hotler Jul 20 #76

They are not working hard at all. Raven123 Jul 20 #77

I have come to believe that many of that group WANT people to DIE RandomNumbers Jul 20 #78

They are in it for themselves. They care not for our country. Norrrm Jul 20 #79

Democracy has to fail badly enough so that an autocrat/fixer is a plausible solution. nt hay rick Jul 20 #80

Putin paid good money for this relayerbob Jul 20 #83

Speaking strictly about trump, I believe he's addicted to revenge, Native Jul 20 #85

Kleptocracy, plain and simple orangecrush Jul 20 #86