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misanthrope

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93. This is what I was coming to post, sort of

Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:26 PM

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Most of the time, chronic venous insufficiency is a symptom of far more serious underlying issues, not solely a casual, isolated problem. Unless he just began a new medication that brings it on -- amlodipine, for instance -- this isn't some negligible problem like an infected skin pore. In conjunction with other indications of his decline -- the cognitive issues, his fatigue, obesity, the Foley catheter, skin, bruising and evidence of IV treatments -- congestive heart failure is a good guess. It's not as if CHF is rare or unexpected for a 79-year-old with his lifestyle.

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Post by an RN: he has congestive heart failure [View all] scipan Saturday OP

You can't diagnose anyone from a distance TnDem Saturday #1

No, it doesn't. Scrivener7 Saturday #4

Yes. It most certainly does. See my post downstream. hlthe2b Saturday #7

Yep. When repubs were offering remote diagnoses of Teri Schiavo, we correctly mocked them. onenote Saturday #53

Exactly JCMach1 Saturday #18

Of course... Escape Saturday #23

What you can't diagnose is why the dog has 3 legs EdmondDantes_ Saturday #30

Really? TnDem Saturday #35

Exactly ...nt Raine Yesterday #69

Probably not enough to kill a cockroach. Silent Type Saturday #2

I've seen no evidence of pitting edema. Ms. Toad Saturday #3

It's possible they noticed something in his hand, maybe after handshaking, which we've all seen him do. scipan Saturday #5

He doesn't have any significant edema in his hands. Ms. Toad Saturday #14

Good points. Maybe they were wrong or maybe they saw that at a different time. scipan Saturday #37

Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would hlthe2b Saturday #6

I don't want to be irresponsible. Not sure if you are a doctor or work in healthcare, but scipan Saturday #11

More replies scipan Saturday #13

Nope TnDem Yesterday #74

Heaven help us! If he suddenly dies (which seems not only possible but probable) we get a worse monster. CTyankee Yesterday #84

Put a disclaimer in the OP. Not gospel, just educated guesses. But so many. scipan Saturday #32

You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health? misanthrope 21 hrs ago #94

Do not tease me malaise Saturday #8

Haha! Right?! babylonsister Saturday #15

Hi there malaise Saturday #19

He can't have congestive heart failure and or a brain tumor BigmanPigman Saturday #9

For that matter, he seems to be lacking in courage, as well. n/t Morbius Saturday #12

I was going to write that, too. BigmanPigman Yesterday #65

We'll never know the truth Oeditpus Rex Saturday #10

I can see Ronnie Jackson's report now... Shipwack Saturday #26

You can have congestive heart failure for nine years? Demobrat Saturday #16

With the right medicine Lulu KC Saturday #22

I see. Of course Trump has access to the world's Demobrat Saturday #25

True, but this is different synni Saturday #41

Yes. I've seen it for 13. /nt bucolic_frolic Saturday #24

Congestive heart failure life expectancy Wiz Imp Saturday #29

It can go undiagnosed for decades synni Saturday #43

Yes. Texasgal 23 hrs ago #91

The Last Responders are standing by Historic NY Saturday #17

You Tube doctors do this type of evaluation all the time bucolic_frolic Saturday #20

YouTube doctors? TnDem Yesterday #75

lol bucolic_frolic Yesterday #76

I've been around it with my dad. roamer65 Saturday #21

Hope 💩. Dies B4 He Can Do a Cheney MrWowWow Saturday #27

I hoped at the time, and still do, that Cheney's donor was not a Democrat. 3catwoman3 Saturday #51

Well he has acute pantload disease at the very least. CentralMass Saturday #28

Not commenting on the diagnosis except markodochartaigh Saturday #31

You're correct, thanks. Correcting in the OP. Nt scipan Saturday #38

Anyone that has/had a loved one Billsdaughter Saturday #33

Foley catheters create their own problems Deminpenn Saturday #57

He's a classic blue bloater. Scrivener7 Yesterday #73

OK. I am not a medical professional, and my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, but . . . colorado_ufo Saturday #34

Equal swelling and not just the legs are also noted by professionals in that thread 🧵. scipan Saturday #40

tsf not golfing is the tell. rubbersole Yesterday #67

Reading the comments in the Thread - gave me a warm feeling (smiling). Dan Saturday #36

I was a caregiver for multiple CHF patients synni Saturday #39

Oh that would be too bad... scipan Saturday #42

He will get the best care qazplm135 Saturday #44

Well there's a limit to what they can do. Worst case, he goes to the front of the line for a heart xplant like Cheney. N scipan Saturday #48

this is a good discussion but bottom line - Nigrum Cattus Saturday #45

I guess Vance could break Teddy Roosevelt's record... ITAL Saturday #46

Regardless, it could still be good news. 3825-87867 Saturday #47

I like the way you think. scipan Saturday #49

I agree...it isn't ethical or accurate to diagnose based on photos... Trueblue Texan Saturday #50

He has a heart? That's news to me. Dave Bowman Saturday #52

If it is not possible to diagnose something without an in-person examination then no one... 3catwoman3 Saturday #54

My diagnosis: Zorro Saturday #55

Standard medical procedure: Aussie105 Saturday #56

Less golfing. scipan Saturday #58

Anyone can claim they are RN on the internet, I wouldn't get my hopes doc03 Saturday #59

But greater than 10 in the thread? scipan Saturday #62

I have a BA in English, and I believe that qualifies me to diagnose him as a vile fuckhead Orrex Saturday #60

Of COURSE he knows he's on borrowed time. no_hypocrisy Saturday #61

Remember Trump's first annual physical Deminpenn Saturday #63

Here's an article cally Yesterday #88

Thanks was just about to post the same link Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #89

More links to the prior heart issues from 2018 Deminpenn 23 hrs ago #90

The make-up is the weird thing Bluetus Yesterday #64

He definitely has some cardio/circulatory problem he's being treated for indusurb Yesterday #66

I, for one, do not CARE what he has, so long as he quits wasting oxygen. niyad Yesterday #68

Hear, hear! Hugin Yesterday #71

+1 dalton99a Yesterday #83

Worthless "diagnosis" ... nt Raine Yesterday #70

Love one of the posts - Sending Clots and Prayers! GoneOffShore Yesterday #72

Oh yea you can diagnose from a distance. As a retired nurse, I called it years ago. It's CHF. flying_wahini Yesterday #77

Be nice to have comment from MD Bluestocking Yesterday #78

Interesting post that you presented in a very balanced way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #79

I don't care what's wrong with him; but it's apparent that something is, Ocelot II Yesterday #80

It could be CHF, but I wouldn't bet on it Jersey Devil Yesterday #81

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #82

Perfect! Nt scipan Yesterday #86

My spouse and a friend got over the ankle swelling once their HBP got under control wishstar Yesterday #85

Frankly Greg_In_SF Yesterday #87

I learned things. Demobrat 21 hrs ago #92

This is what I was coming to post, sort of misanthrope 21 hrs ago #93

Problem with people like Trump...Hell doesn't want them. Xolodno 18 hrs ago #95