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Warpy

(113,719 posts)
39. Uh, no
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:20 PM
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and it was a novel about self deception.

If it had been the male model of a young teenager seducing a vulnerable old man, that old man would simply have replaced her with another thirteen year old seductress when Lolita decamped to be with a lover she'd chosen. Suicide would not have been in Hunbert's future had simple seduction been all there was to it.

I suspect people will argue over this novel as long as men see a heartless barely pubescent seductress and women see a heartless stepfather who repeatedly raped her. The truth is that Humbert deceived himself completely about everything, whil Lolita herself was as much of a realist as a girl that young can be, trading sex for support.

(By the way, that appeal to the bandwagon fell totally flat. It is a fallacy. It doesn't work)

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The character Lolita, age 13, was repeatedly raped by the narrator of the book. hedda_foil Monday #1
But Humbert doesn't see it that way. milestogo Monday #2
The reader however, does see it as such Torchlight Monday #3
I read the book a long time ago milestogo Monday #5
I've never read the forward either. But is was pretty clear Humbert is to be seen as a horrible person. emulatorloo Monday #7
The forward merely validated an already existent theme Torchlight Monday #9
Humbert Humbert is what's called an "unreliable narrator." Reader knows he's a full of shit pedophile. emulatorloo Monday #4
Because Jilly_in_VA Monday #6
Background usonian Monday #8
Agree Starbeach Monday #10
Horrible Humbert Express would be a better name. milestogo Monday #12
k and r BoRaGard Monday #11
The term is despicable, implying legitimacy. The old pedophile lie/excuse of "she initiated it". AnotherMother4Peace Monday #13
It implies exploitation and abuse. Torchlight Monday #14
The movie version portrayed Lolita as a seductive underaged "slut" w/the older man at her mercy. He just AnotherMother4Peace Monday #18
Your inference is not a common one. Torchlight Monday #23
My "inference" of Lolita is a common one as evidenced by the term "Lolita Express" - a fucking slam on the young victims AnotherMother4Peace Monday #26
No one would want to admit they find degeneracy "cutesy" Torchlight Monday #28
"We" would be interested in your objective findings as well. It sounds like your sampling was limited AnotherMother4Peace Monday #31
I need to add that the movie character of Lolita thought the older man was a creep & he thought he was God's gift. AnotherMother4Peace Monday #25
There are 2 movie versions of Lolita milestogo Monday #30
Oh - interesting. I watched the 1962 version once & cannot watch it again - too dark for me as a victim myself. AnotherMother4Peace Monday #32
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #35
There are actually two pedophiles in the story: Humbert and Quilty milestogo Monday #36
You may want to reread Lolita, because you didn't get it on the first go around. Cuthbert Allgood Monday #15
You may want to reread my OP, because you didn't get it on the first go around. milestogo Monday #16
Lolita is the term that is used because it's the title. Cuthbert Allgood Monday #17
Stupid and gross. milestogo Monday #19
Never said stupid; I said they don't get it. Cuthbert Allgood Monday #38
Imply is to Infer as Pitch is to Catch Torchlight Monday #21
Nabokov was a modernist Cuthbert Allgood Monday #27
Crap. I originally responded to your post thinking it was one above it. Torchlight Monday #29
It's all good Cuthbert Allgood Monday #33
Indeed. writerJT Monday #37
Jeez, did you read the book? Warpy Monday #20
Ah, so its a novel about self-stimulation. milestogo Monday #24
Uh, no Warpy Monday #39
Good. You should. Iggo Monday #22
I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Monday #34
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