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In reply to the discussion: Holocaust inversion and secondary or soft antisemitism are nothing new. [View all]Last edited Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:13 PM - Edit history (1)
As many genocide experts are concluding, the genocidal intent has become apparent through the RESULTS and ACTIONS on the ground. Undeniable genocidal results that could only have come about through meticulous planning. WHAT IS PLANNING IF NOT INTENT?
The legal definition of Genocide requires specific intent and genocidal actions. From the UN:
Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.¹
Also you need to educate yourself about the responsibility of an Occupying Power in war towards the civilian population. Not only is targeting and wantonly killing them not allowed, but facilitating aid necessary for their survival is MANDATORY.
Israel ended it's occupation in 2005 after 9,000 Israelis were forcibly removed from the strip and the IDF gave the security responsibilities to Fatah. Control of the GazaEgypt border was handed over to Egypt and the Gazans. According to Israels high court:
Israels High Court of Justice found in 2008 that Israels effective control ceased in 2005. Specifically, it found that the [m]ilitary rule that applied in the past in this territory came to an end by a decision of the government, and Israeli soldiers are no longer stationed in the territory permanently, nor are they in charge of what happens there. It, therefore, determined that the occupation ended in 2005.
No other occupation has been recognized without a physical military presence or a puppet regime, this so called occupation without occupation is unique to Israel.
Now that I've clarified some things, perhaps you will stop repeating these false talking points in other posts. I'm very tired of repeating myself.
I don't consider them false, or talking points per se, law is not nearly as unequivocal as you seem to think, and at the end of the day these accusations about so called genocide, ethnical cleansing etc are being used by the media/social media in a very cynical way to frame the conflict that conceals the role played by Hamas and their revanchist dreams of ridding Palestine of Jews.
¹ https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition
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Holocaust inversion and secondary or soft antisemitism are nothing new. [View all]
LexVegas
Jul 29
OP
So starving only SOME Palestinians - not most - is proof of no genocidal intent?
AloeVera
Jul 29
#10
I am not going through this ridiculous post in its entirety, but I can't resist this one:
Beastly Boy
Jul 29
#25
And as long as we're discussing definitions, what does "No one is going to rid Israel of Jews" mean?
lapucelle
Jul 29
#33
Thank goodness they're not also jailed, deported, fired from faculty, stripped of degrees and even green cards
AloeVera
Jul 29
#31
Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA
lapucelle
Jul 30
#49
I read the article from the Daily Bruin and the case is quite complex. I didn't see specific examples of what
LymphocyteLover
Jul 31
#94
I blame both the Trump administration and the students who engaged in anti-Semitism.
lapucelle
Aug 1
#108
OK, thanks for your thoughtful response. Still, it's clear the whole uproar about these protests greatly aided tRump and
LymphocyteLover
Aug 1
#109
What we are seeing quite a bit of is the terms "Israel", "Zionist" and "Jewish" being used synonymously
sarisataka
Jul 29
#18
I'm not in denial about Hamas's propaganda machine or the extremist groups that stoke it.
lapucelle
Jul 30
#56
Those freedom fighters have, perhaps, the greatest propaganda machine in history. nt
LexVegas
Jul 30
#57
Advocating that the government of Israel should stop killing and starving civilians equals soft antisemitism?
LudwigPastorius
Jul 30
#55
That's still not an evidence based or philosophy based defense of Holocaust inversion as a thing
EdmondDantes_
Jul 31
#85
Pox on Both Hamas and Baby Yahoo. Defending and rationalizing any of this is beyond Insane
msfiddlestix
Jul 31
#99