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In reply to the discussion: Holocaust inversion and secondary or soft antisemitism are nothing new. [View all]lapucelle
(20,606 posts)49. Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA
was effectively participating in the exclusion by enabling it.
The judge rejected UCLA's "Yes, we knew that Jewish students were being denied services, but we didn't actually do it; we only allowed it to be done" argument.
In the year 2024, in the United States of America, in the State of California, in the City of Los Angeles, Jewish students were excluded from portions of the UCLA campus because they refused to denounce their faith. This fact is so unimaginable and so abhorrent to our constitutional guarantee of religious freedom that it bears repeating, Jewish students were excluded from portions of the UCLA campus because they refused to denounce their faith.
UCLA does not dispute this. Instead, UCLA claims that it has no responsibility to protect the religious freedom of its Jewish students because the exclusion was engineered by third-party protesters. But under constitutional principles, UCLA may not allow services to some students when UCLA knows that other students are excluded on religious grounds, regardless of who engineered the exclusion.
UCLA does not dispute this. Instead, UCLA claims that it has no responsibility to protect the religious freedom of its Jewish students because the exclusion was engineered by third-party protesters. But under constitutional principles, UCLA may not allow services to some students when UCLA knows that other students are excluded on religious grounds, regardless of who engineered the exclusion.
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Court rules pro-Palestine protests cannot obstruct Jewishstudents accessibility
While UCLA concurred with the plaintiffs that Jewish students had faced discrimination on campus, attorneys for the university argued against the lawsuits legitimacy by claiming that the university itself was not directly responsible for this exclusion of the students. However, Scarsi rejected this claim. He stated that UCLA contributed to the plaintiffs exclusion by continuing to offer opportunities to other, non-Jewish students while Jewish peers alleged they could not access the same opportunities, a violation of the Free Exercise Clause.
The injuries are not simply the exclusion of Plaintiffs, the ruling said. The injuries result when Plaintiffs are excluded from certain of UCLAs ordinarily available programs, activities and campus areas and UCLA still provides those programs, activities, and campus areas to other students, knowing that Plaintiffs and students like them are excluded.
While UCLA concurred with the plaintiffs that Jewish students had faced discrimination on campus, attorneys for the university argued against the lawsuits legitimacy by claiming that the university itself was not directly responsible for this exclusion of the students. However, Scarsi rejected this claim. He stated that UCLA contributed to the plaintiffs exclusion by continuing to offer opportunities to other, non-Jewish students while Jewish peers alleged they could not access the same opportunities, a violation of the Free Exercise Clause.
The injuries are not simply the exclusion of Plaintiffs, the ruling said. The injuries result when Plaintiffs are excluded from certain of UCLAs ordinarily available programs, activities and campus areas and UCLA still provides those programs, activities, and campus areas to other students, knowing that Plaintiffs and students like them are excluded.
https://dailybruin.com/2024/08/14/court-rules-pro-palestine-protests-cannot-obstruct-jewish-students-accessibility
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Holocaust inversion and secondary or soft antisemitism are nothing new. [View all]
LexVegas
Jul 29
OP
So starving only SOME Palestinians - not most - is proof of no genocidal intent?
AloeVera
Jul 29
#10
I am not going through this ridiculous post in its entirety, but I can't resist this one:
Beastly Boy
Jul 29
#25
And as long as we're discussing definitions, what does "No one is going to rid Israel of Jews" mean?
lapucelle
Jul 29
#33
Thank goodness they're not also jailed, deported, fired from faculty, stripped of degrees and even green cards
AloeVera
Jul 29
#31
Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA
lapucelle
Jul 30
#49
I read the article from the Daily Bruin and the case is quite complex. I didn't see specific examples of what
LymphocyteLover
Jul 31
#94
I blame both the Trump administration and the students who engaged in anti-Semitism.
lapucelle
Aug 1
#108
OK, thanks for your thoughtful response. Still, it's clear the whole uproar about these protests greatly aided tRump and
LymphocyteLover
Aug 1
#109
What we are seeing quite a bit of is the terms "Israel", "Zionist" and "Jewish" being used synonymously
sarisataka
Jul 29
#18
I'm not in denial about Hamas's propaganda machine or the extremist groups that stoke it.
lapucelle
Jul 30
#56
Those freedom fighters have, perhaps, the greatest propaganda machine in history. nt
LexVegas
Jul 30
#57
Advocating that the government of Israel should stop killing and starving civilians equals soft antisemitism?
LudwigPastorius
Jul 30
#55
That's still not an evidence based or philosophy based defense of Holocaust inversion as a thing
EdmondDantes_
Jul 31
#85
Pox on Both Hamas and Baby Yahoo. Defending and rationalizing any of this is beyond Insane
msfiddlestix
Jul 31
#99