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Mossfern

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44. I disagree

Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:14 PM

Jul 30

I was an Employment Specialist for out County's equivalent program to Welfare to Work - that's just background for explanation of my "cred" about this. Part of my job was to approve the continued issuance of food stamps.
I had pretty close relationships with my clients - I liked them.

What I found was that the vast majority were clueless about nutrition. Some didn't even know that vegetables grew from the
ground, but thought they just came in a can. They lived in food deserts - as did their parents and grandparents. I didn't fault my clients about that, it was just the result of generations not understanding or not being taught nutrition in school.

What's needed is instead of requirements for training or work, or in conjunction with that, that there be education in life skills - nutrition, parenting etc with peer support groups lead by informed social workers and educators. Not supporting purchase of foods that are harmful to health is important, no matter how harsh some people may think it is. Good nutrition is a foundation of physical and mental health.

Allowing harmful foods is not helping individuals, but financing their demise.

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Do SNAP Food Restrictions Help Health, or Punish Poor People? [View all] justaprogressive Jul 30 OP

They just punish. Food is food pretty much. Most food problems are from over eating, not what your eating Blues Heron Jul 30 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #2

Did I say it was water? No it's sugar water. Not a problem unless you guzzle a quart at a time. Blues Heron Jul 30 #5

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So ban all processed food for snap recipients? That's dumb. The restrictions are dumb. Blues Heron Jul 30 #7

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WIC is too restrictive for most Freddie Jul 30 #14

WIC is very restrictive... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #16

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Not sure what your point is SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #69

Their point is pushing the right wing "welfare queen" angle in new clothes (new wording for old trope) Bernardo de La Paz Jul 30 #73

I'm not pushing right wing anything SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #75

It's not you. I was answering your question you asked of the right wing troll. They got banned for the reason I cited. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 30 #76

Ah, got it - thank you for the clarification! n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #77

Restrictions punish and people get weird about food "morality" REALLY quickly. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #4

Restrictions on food stamps are pretty much to humiliate people questionseverything Jul 30 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #12

Of course it's to humiliate food stamp recipients questionseverything Jul 30 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #18

It's foolish, where does the no sugar stop? questionseverything Jul 30 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #22

I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy questionseverything Jul 30 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #30

No we don't, they can pass anything they want on their own questionseverything Jul 30 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #36

No, repukes start by eliminating soda and end with eliminating the program questionseverything Jul 30 #38

The "government" isn't paying for it. choie Jul 30 #90

I disagree Mossfern Jul 30 #44

So since you are such an expert, I assume your eating habits are "perfect "? questionseverything Jul 30 #46

Actually .... Mossfern Jul 30 #54

The problem is balance between what is healthful... haele Jul 30 #48

Very often people receiving food stamps Mossfern Jul 30 #57

Poison is not on the list of SNAP-eligible products. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #58

That public assistance doesn't always pay rent and utilities synni Jul 30 #96

As a matter of fact choie Jul 30 #91

Punishment berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #9

This! justaprogressive Jul 30 #15

And also, the homeless. A bag of beans to someone who, by definition, has no kitchen to cook in, is just insulting. CTyankee Jul 30 #20

Exactly berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #24

I wonder if that's how their mamas raised them -- to inventory a stranger's cart and pay strict attention to how ... Alice B. Jul 30 #39

In AR all ebt cards look the same berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #41

I hear you. I know this quite personally because I've used an EBT card -- even an average white lady Alice B. Jul 30 #79

But Twinkies and a Coke Mossfern Jul 30 #45

"Twinkids and a Coke will harm them." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #53

People on snap already can't buy candy bars with it standingtall Jul 30 #59

Yup, I heard it straight from the horse's mouth. GoCubsGo Jul 30 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #25

I wasn't responding to the OP. GoCubsGo Jul 30 #26

+1 leftstreet Jul 30 #35

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Neither help nor punish GreatGazoo Jul 30 #10

See my post just before yours. CTyankee Jul 30 #21

I got into an argument with a professor once over this sort of thing. Alice B. Jul 30 #42

Honestly, I'm torn on this... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #13

Most people want to be healthy, so focus on education not restrictions. Blues Heron Jul 30 #29

I agree but not sure how they could Tree Lady Jul 30 #52

The only real way to do it... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 30 #55

One item drives me nuts. Kraft box of Mac n cheese. If cbabe Jul 30 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #31

If you have a microwave. One innovation is pop top cans so a can opener isn't needed. cbabe Jul 30 #32

When healthy foods become more price-competitive to the alternatives Torchlight Jul 30 #33

$25 bottle of olive oil vs $7 bottle of hydrogenated veg oil berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #37

Please don't feel that way, most of us don't agree with that crap questionseverything Jul 30 #40

Thank you berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #43

No one should ever feel ashamed for doing the best they can. Ever. Torchlight Jul 30 #51

It's very disappointing to see holier than thou types pushing this shit on a democratic site questionseverything Jul 30 #64

I'm on SNAP, ask me anything. Luz Jul 30 #47

you explain it well Skittles Jul 30 #50

Honestly, I live in a food desert..literally. We Luz Jul 30 #92

aahhh OK Skittles Jul 30 #93

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In the 'hood??? berniesandersmittens Jul 30 #71

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This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #49

FWIW, there's very little difference in the kind of purchases SNAP households make compared to non-SNAP households. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #56

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. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #63

Besides the obvious objections from industries, one of the reasons the USDA is generally loathe to implement WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #65

Exactly, it would just run up the cost which of course means more people can't get food questionseverything Jul 30 #67

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go cry about it WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #82

Link? questionseverything Jul 30 #66

Interesting thread that deserves only one response Smokster Jul 30 #62

There's something else at play here. surrealAmerican Jul 30 #74

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I've seen one person in my entire life only buy standingtall Jul 30 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 30 #85

Ah, *here's* where the dog is buried. You're mad about the way other people choose to eat. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #88

I detest food snobbery Skittles Jul 30 #94

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 30 #84

Gosh, lots of cart-peerers today Starry Messenger Jul 30 #86

Gladys Kravitz is alive and well Torchlight Jul 30 #87

right? Skittles Jul 30 #95

Damn. The shitty things being said about poor people. Double damn. Solly Mack Jul 30 #89

I agree, this thread is making huge assumptions Luz Jul 30 #97

Yep. Paternalistic assumptions. Solly Mack Jul 30 #98

Maybe have a program where an EBT card Mossfern Jul 30 #99