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25. According to Colls and science, Is Shakespeare's skull in that infant-sized "grave"? Yes or No

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 31, 2025, 04:28 PM

Jul 31

And why would Colls theorize that Susanna was exhumed and buried elsewhere if his GPR proved 5 bodies in those 5 "graves"?

My OP explores a long trend in the genre and discipline of history moving away from legend, myth and biografiction toward accuracy, primary sources and reality. The Shakespeare myth is heavily defended yet it crumbles under any scrutiny so it is a great example of how inaccuracy is defended, excused, perpetuated and monetized. The "Shakespeare Birthplace" was built in 1864. The "grave" is unmarked and contained no skull or coffin. The will of Shakspere was suppressed and mistranscribed because its contents do not fit the popular myth. The bogus deer poaching story was repeated as truth for 100+ years. The mulberry tree was sold as trinkets a hundred times over. Thousands of innocent tourists are ripped off by these fraudsters every year. I don't find any of that to be funny or ironic.

Colls is being coy but reasonable people can read his conclusions for themselves and understand that, at the very least, he is saying there is no skull or evidence of a coffin in that bogus child-sized "grave".

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Why Is So Much of What We Call "History" Wrong? [View all] GreatGazoo Jul 30 OP

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I specifically tried to exclude tourism and tourist attractions, thucythucy Jul 30 #15

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That simple malaise Jul 30 #8

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The Bible isn't history. thought crime Jul 30 #19

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To a certain degree it can only be an art ITAL Jul 30 #5

"Why it happened" is much more debatable than 'What happened' GreatGazoo Jul 30 #6

Nice OP malaise Jul 30 #9

Ironically, your version of the scan of Shakespeare's grave is completely wrong muriel_volestrangler Jul 30 #10

GPR shows no skull, no casket or coffin, not even nails from a rotted coffin. GreatGazoo Jul 30 #11

The irony of your attempt to spin this against the reality is quite hilarious muriel_volestrangler Jul 30 #13

I cited the Shakespeare myth specifically for the dynamic you are helping to illustrate GreatGazoo Jul 30 #14

Sure, go on denying what the people who did the scan said, if it makes you feel OK muriel_volestrangler Jul 31 #22

Kevin Colls says there is no skull under that stone and no coffin GreatGazoo Jul 31 #23

So we've gone from "Shakespeare isn't buried there. It's empty" to 5, including him, buried in shallow graves in shrouds muriel_volestrangler Jul 31 #24

According to Colls and science, Is Shakespeare's skull in that infant-sized "grave"? Yes or No GreatGazoo Jul 31 #25

They don't know if the skull is in there or not, but the grave is not "infant-sized" muriel_volestrangler Jul 31 #30

"It's very very convincing to me that his skull isn't at Holy Trinity at all." - Colls GreatGazoo Aug 1 #31

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Well said! nt intrepidity Jul 31 #26

It is manipulated thru time to say what one wants republianmushroom Aug 2 #34