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12. I read an interesting column by this lawyer Asiz Huq
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 10:53 PM
Aug 26

Earlier this year and he pointed out the folly of this type of thinking. Where you just start changing things abruptly ignoring all precedents.

It actually comes out of the Si Valley accelerationist mentality. But what people like the don’t get and certainly Trump doesn’t is that a basic facet of intelligence is recognizing that you simply can’t brute force control reality.

It’s nightmarish to watch people think they can because even if you know that they can’t just randomly break rules and live randomly, it doesn’t mean that you may not end up being a casualty or cannon fodder.

The issue with people who break rules and get away with it, cannot be fixed by more of the same. That’s a daft way to proceed.

It’s getting past appeals to decency and to sense by now. You may (people who think like this presumably) look at Putin, Xi or North Korea and think “that’s awesome!” Presumably that’s the reasoning. But those are different cultures and if you want to be a successful fascist you gotta go slower and do it more cautiously and sneakily..lol.. it’s so pathetic.

But it’s clear that appeals to better angels etc has no point in a large enough segment of society and then at that point it’s appeals to self-interest. Don’t break everything just because you can. It will take you down too.

https://www.ft.com/content/339418e7-405a-4028-a998-4faa622d6b23?shareType=nongift

Trump’s Make America Great Again movement might feel liberated by a judiciary that holds no sway over the executive, said Aziz Huq, professor at the University of Chicago Law School.

“But what it also does is it liberates everybody else. Why should a governor, why should a state court judge . . . why should anybody listen to the legal opinion of either the Supreme Court or the president?

“It’s not that you open the door to unilateral claims of power by the president, it’s that you open the door to a cacophony of voices rather than a single voice settling what the law says,” he added.

“I don’t think anyone knows what that looks like. But I don’t think it’s what the people on the Maga right think it looks like”.


I was thinking along those lines when reading this piece as well:

https://aeon.co/essays/the-sovereign-individual-and-the-paradox-of-the-digital-age

Data about the flow of choices is used to update and enhance a system’s global view of its own state

What is happening here is more than an abstract flow of information. It is more than a means of surveillance. It is more than a price mechanism. Rather, it’s as if the air traffic control and insurance commission functions of the IBM 650 have been fused, shrunk, and wholly generalised. This is the real computing revolution. Much of what we do is immediately authenticated as we do it, stored as data, classified or scored on some sort of scale, and deployed in real time to modulate some outcome of interest – usually, the behaviour of a person, or a machine, or an organisation.


I had a longish post I had been planning to post in another forum and I will at some point but then I thought about this essay from Tyee and decided to put it off for a few months.
Trump has certain parallels with Covid as black swan events go..:

https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2020/03/26/Nerds-We-Trust/

Peter Sandman, a risk communication researcher, has made some fascinating observations about how we handle information in times of crisis. The traditional calculation of risk is to multiply the magnitude — how bad something will be when it happens by the probability of it happening (risk = probability x impact).

It’s the type of formula that an environmental assessor uses to determine acceptable outcomes from a proposed industrial project or a simplified way that an insurance company uses to calculate rates.

But Sandman says that this classic equation needs another key factor: outrage.

Outrage is a strong emotion. The actual magnitude or probability of risk is overcome by the cultural assessment of risk. Emotions and beliefs outweigh data. For most of the public, the risk formula can be better expressed as:

risk = 😳 x 💥

So if forcing data is a bad strategy, what is a good strategy? Your best path to get someone to listen to you is to have frank, open discussions, and for you to listen to their concerns about an issue. In this case, the COVID-19 pandemic.

Instead of giving someone an info dump (or some such), talk about the worry of being alarmist. Talk about the disruption in your life. Talk about the dilemmas. You normally help your grandma with meals, but now you can’t visit. You’re worried that the project you’ve been working on for months might get cancelled if you don’t go in to work. You’re sad because you can’t celebrate a milestone with friends and family.


Even if you are a fascist, living only in the present moment is not ideal. Delayed gratification fascist accelerationists!
I am being sarcastic..but really, beyond a point it’s not even clever creeping to not reign in your creep instincts some.

It’s a complicated mess of a post, but very reflective of the zeitgeist of the times.

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