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In reply to the discussion: "I have the right to do anything I want to do" [View all]jfz9580m
(15,923 posts)Earlier this year and he pointed out the folly of this type of thinking. Where you just start changing things abruptly ignoring all precedents.
It actually comes out of the Si Valley accelerationist mentality. But what people like the dont get and certainly Trump doesnt is that a basic facet of intelligence is recognizing that you simply cant brute force control reality.
Its nightmarish to watch people think they can because even if you know that they cant just randomly break rules and live randomly, it doesnt mean that you may not end up being a casualty or cannon fodder.
The issue with people who break rules and get away with it, cannot be fixed by more of the same. Thats a daft way to proceed.
Its getting past appeals to decency and to sense by now. You may (people who think like this presumably) look at Putin, Xi or North Korea and think thats awesome! Presumably thats the reasoning. But those are different cultures and if you want to be a successful fascist you gotta go slower and do it more cautiously and sneakily..lol.. its so pathetic.
But its clear that appeals to better angels etc has no point in a large enough segment of society and then at that point its appeals to self-interest. Dont break everything just because you can. It will take you down too.
https://www.ft.com/content/339418e7-405a-4028-a998-4faa622d6b23?shareType=nongift
But what it also does is it liberates everybody else. Why should a governor, why should a state court judge . . . why should anybody listen to the legal opinion of either the Supreme Court or the president?
Its not that you open the door to unilateral claims of power by the president, its that you open the door to a cacophony of voices rather than a single voice settling what the law says, he added.
I dont think anyone knows what that looks like. But I dont think its what the people on the Maga right think it looks like.
I was thinking along those lines when reading this piece as well:
https://aeon.co/essays/the-sovereign-individual-and-the-paradox-of-the-digital-age
What is happening here is more than an abstract flow of information. It is more than a means of surveillance. It is more than a price mechanism. Rather, its as if the air traffic control and insurance commission functions of the IBM 650 have been fused, shrunk, and wholly generalised. This is the real computing revolution. Much of what we do is immediately authenticated as we do it, stored as data, classified or scored on some sort of scale, and deployed in real time to modulate some outcome of interest usually, the behaviour of a person, or a machine, or an organisation.
I had a longish post I had been planning to post in another forum and I will at some point but then I thought about this essay from Tyee and decided to put it off for a few months.
Trump has certain parallels with Covid as black swan events go..:
https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2020/03/26/Nerds-We-Trust/
Its the type of formula that an environmental assessor uses to determine acceptable outcomes from a proposed industrial project or a simplified way that an insurance company uses to calculate rates.
But Sandman says that this classic equation needs another key factor: outrage.
Outrage is a strong emotion. The actual magnitude or probability of risk is overcome by the cultural assessment of risk. Emotions and beliefs outweigh data. For most of the public, the risk formula can be better expressed as:
risk = 😳 x 💥
So if forcing data is a bad strategy, what is a good strategy? Your best path to get someone to listen to you is to have frank, open discussions, and for you to listen to their concerns about an issue. In this case, the COVID-19 pandemic.
Instead of giving someone an info dump (or some such), talk about the worry of being alarmist. Talk about the disruption in your life. Talk about the dilemmas. You normally help your grandma with meals, but now you cant visit. Youre worried that the project youve been working on for months might get cancelled if you dont go in to work. Youre sad because you cant celebrate a milestone with friends and family.
Even if you are a fascist, living only in the present moment is not ideal. Delayed gratification fascist accelerationists!
I am being sarcastic..but really, beyond a point its not even clever creeping to not reign in your creep instincts some.
Its a complicated mess of a post, but very reflective of the zeitgeist of the times.
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