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markodochartaigh

(3,781 posts)
36. In 2015
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:19 AM
Aug 27

the Republican leadership was going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate but because Trump was so wildly popular among the 80% of their base who are authoritarians they realized that they could not win without him. So they put an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate.
After the tax cut for the wealthy was passed in Trump's first term some Republican politicians started to drift away from Trump but that split was quashed too, because of Trump's popularity.
After the failed coup attempt there were a few weeks when Trump's popularity declined among his base. But when it became apparent that he would not be held personally responsible, his popularity rose back to it's baseline. His base didn't care that he had tried to overthrow democracy, they cared that he had failed and might be punished.
During President Biden's term, Trump's popularity among some groups actually rose.

All of this popularity is because of propagandization of an authoritarian base. Propaganda works best on people when they are stressed. It seems likely that when the Republicans need to switch their base's loyalty to Trump economic conditions will be bad and people will be frightened. It is also possible that Trump could start a war to gin up support.

If enough propaganda can be fed to a stressed population, and especially if Trump could be coerced into accepting a "president emeritus" position, I think that the Republican base could be weaned over. If he dies in office with the economy spiraling downward, it might be possible to pin the downturn on Vance. That's when a war to gin up support seems very likely.

And the votes will be combined with extreme disenfranchisement and gerrymandering and an incredible amount of money from our oiligarchs, and incredible propaganda from reich-wing news, religion, and social media.

I think that it is likely that the Republicans will hold the House and Senate.

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Metaphorically, there will be blood on the floor in the Republicon caucus. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #1
I am guessing the commemorative pin will Baitball Blogger Aug 27 #2
Some magats are so firmly attached to Taco that they may consider sati for themselves. dedl67 Aug 27 #3
Tea Party II Abstractartist Aug 27 #4
Congress will have another division besides Republican-Democrat bucolic_frolic Aug 27 #5
They will support V simply because mwmisses4289 Aug 27 #6
And their handlers will tell them to or else. Biophilic Aug 27 #12
I think it's a moot point because I don't see him dying over the next three years. Feel Good Inc Aug 27 #7
+1. Like most tyrants, he will expire naturally of old age in extreme luxury and comfort dalton99a Aug 27 #43
The figurehead is replaceable. TommyT139 Aug 27 #8
Shady Vance ._. Aug 27 #9
Agreed. Dulcinea Aug 27 #48
GQP are trained, brainwashed, passed the purity test....................... Lovie777 Aug 27 #10
Just like with Elvis, there'll be a Trump impersonator on every corner. surfered Aug 27 #11
If, as many of us suspect, that MAGA is a cult of personality, it's questionable that it allegorical oracle Aug 27 #13
I tend to believe cults of personality are dependent on The One. Torchlight Aug 27 #14
Nobody fears Vance the way they fear Trump Fiendish Thingy Aug 27 #15
My 2 cents... JPK Aug 27 #16
Gross (but no) mr715 Aug 27 #31
My crystal ball sees Greg Abbott as the replacement dictator.... Thunderbeast Aug 27 #17
Yep, Abbott has been screwing up Texas and still get reelected uponit7771 Aug 27 #19
Abbott has no charisma and just displays that "push me into the ocean" look madinmaryland Aug 27 #45
Optics mr715 Aug 27 #29
If he has the same Epstein list Pedoprez does they'll do whatever he says uponit7771 Aug 27 #18
Yep - Chop Shop 'Murca remains open with a President Vance hatrack Aug 27 #20
Mostly. carpetbagger Aug 27 #21
They'll have a self-immolating battle for leadership. tinrobot Aug 27 #22
I think Vance will be less likely to have the cult support so Congress JI7 Aug 27 #23
BINGO Skittles Aug 27 #46
Karma, get busy! ProudMNDemocrat Aug 27 #24
Vance doesn't have his own cult of personality and comradebillyboy Aug 27 #25
They'll follow him like a herd of cats. marble falls Aug 27 #26
They'll fall in line MaineBlueBear Aug 27 #27
Will Project 2025 continue via MAGA, or BigmanPigman Aug 27 #28
Vance doesnt have much charisma Johonny Aug 27 #30
This. He won't hold up under the kind of pressure it would take to keep up the facade that R policies are helping Iris Aug 27 #38
He will be placed out Traildogbob Aug 27 #32
Miller's so raging full of himself and his hateful success that he may run. nt allegorical oracle Aug 27 #41
Yes, because that's what they're paid to do. yardwork Aug 27 #33
BLOTUS will survive the term. CentralMass Aug 27 #34
I don't think the MAGA cult is transferrable. Ocelot II Aug 27 #35
In 2015 markodochartaigh Aug 27 #36
Putin will already be in full control by then so it won't matter. hamsterjill Aug 27 #37
The oligarchy (project 2025) will remain in full control, just as they are now. GoodRaisin Aug 27 #39
If Pootie tells them to support Vance, yes they will do exactly that FakeNoose Aug 27 #40
Although hampered by Trump PATRICK Aug 27 #42
They'll shatter to pieces mr715 Aug 27 #44
When it happens D_Master81 Aug 27 #47
No. H2O Man Aug 27 #49
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