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Irish_Dem

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23. Yes of course. Mood disorders are quite different from the psychotic disorders.
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 06:49 AM
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But there certainly were severely depressed people locked up in psych hospitals in the old days.
The crippling kind where they cannot get out of bed and or make frequent suicide attempts.

Yes but the difference is that your friend has short stays in the hospital to stabilize her
and she quickly returned to home. She is not locked up for life.

Psych meds changed things tremendously. People no longer had to have long stays in the hospital
and could function normally.

When I started in practice, there was only first generation psych drugs but it was wonderful.
It was like a miracle to see the severely mentally ill return to normal in such a quick period of time
with meds.

23% of the US have some sort of mental illness.
But only 6% have serious mental illness.

The rates seem high but it is due to the fact Americans now accept depression and mental illness
as medical problems and are not ashamed to seek treatment.

In 40 years of clinical practice I only saw ONE case of medication induced suicidal thoughts.
That was a young man on Accutane for his acne. I called his dermatologist right away
and insisted he be taken off the medication asap. The doc did so and the young man was fine.

Please note that I was a therapist and did not prescribe meds and obviously believed in talking
therapy as beneficial. But I fully admit that psych meds are a wonderful thing.

I do agree that kids may be overmedicated today.
But on the other hand I have seen seriously suicidal three year olds.
And psychotic 10 year olds.
They need meds.

I think it is easy for lay people to denigrate mental health treatment, but they
are not the ones who have to try to help mentally people in clinics and hospitals.
It is heartbreaking to see seriously ill patients but then a miracle to see them
able to function normally after being treated with medication. It is a miracle of modern medicine.

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I think I'll scream. Deuxcents Aug 29 #1
I fucking hate this man so much. USS_Dauntless Aug 29 #8
Yup, that will stop those pesky mass shooting, because it was those meds that made them do it. (sarcasm) lostincalifornia Aug 29 #2
So what now? FalloutShelter Aug 29 #3
No. USS_Dauntless Aug 29 #7
My mother was a student nurse after WWII, she watched priests do exorcisms on the psych ward Irish_Dem Aug 29 #10
Isn't there a huge range from anxiety to schizophrenia womanofthehills Aug 29 #20
Yes of course. Mood disorders are quite different from the psychotic disorders. Irish_Dem Saturday #23
Does RFK Jr know what it was like before psych meds? Irish_Dem Aug 29 #4
His aunt had a frontal lobotomy. haele Aug 29 #16
Yes at least there were psych hospitals back then. Irish_Dem Aug 29 #17
Cuz it couldn't be the guns. CincyDem Aug 29 #5
It's not the pills robert, it's the guns, look there first. Blues Heron Aug 29 #6
It could not possibly be the guns. Turbineguy Aug 29 #9
Stomach-turning, given the tragic role of gun violence in rfk jr's family. (nt) Paladin Aug 29 #11
I predict Kennedy will be impeached or forced to resign before Trump's term is over Fiendish Thingy Aug 29 #12
I hope the pharma industry tells him to pound sand. USS_Dauntless Aug 29 #15
I feel like he'll be the first one and that it will happen soon Iris Aug 29 #19
He hildegaard28 Saturday #22
Other countries have psychiatric meds, but they don't have the mass shootings. Mister Ed Aug 29 #13
Guns are the common denominator in all these mass murders and yet..what else can they blame for this mess Deuxcents Aug 29 #14
Talking like Tom Cruise and Scientology. no_hypocrisy Aug 29 #18
Let's send RFK on a vacation to Louisiana with free all-you-can-eat raw oysters Blue Owl Aug 29 #21
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