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lostnfound

(17,204 posts)
1. Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 07:23 AM
Aug 31

Can anyone explain why these are federal charges?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/vance-boelter-indicted-murders-melissa-and-mark-hortman-shootings-john-and-yvette-0

This case is the result of an investigation conducted by the FBI, Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, ATF, Brooklyn Park Police Department, Minneapolis Police Department, Hennepin County Sheriff’s Office, Champlin Police Department, and New Hope Police Department, together with several other state and local partners. The National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section also assisted in the investigation. This investigation has proceeded with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in strong partnership with the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office


Pled not guilty; Pam Bondi to decide on seeking death penalty; letter to Kash Patel
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/08/07/vance-boelter-enters-plea-in-minnesota-lawmaker-hortman-shooting-case
Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson said in July that that a decision on whether to seek capital punishment is months away and will ultimately be made by Attorney General Pam Bondi with input from Minnesota federal prosecutors and the victims’ families.

In addition to Atwal, a federal public defender based in Minneapolis, Boelter’s defense team includes Las Vegas-based federal defenders Kimberly Sharkey and Ryan Norwood. Sharkey is chief of the death penalty unit in the federal public defender’s office.

When they announced the indictment, federal prosecutors released a rambling handwritten letter they say Boelter wrote to FBI Director Kash Patel. In it, Boelter allegedly confessed to the June 14 shootings of Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, but it does not make clear why he targeted the Hortmans or Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, who survived.

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Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links) lostnfound Aug 31 #1
The charges are federal because . . . DarthDem Aug 31 #9
Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess Pam Bondi and Kash Patel... lostnfound Sep 1 #31
You're welcome DarthDem Sep 1 #33
Damn TheFarseer Aug 31 #2
It certainly appears that way. niyad Aug 31 #8
Would you be surprised if they were? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Aug 31 #17
Unlikely given how they work and our limited ability to control what the output will be EdmondDantes_ Aug 31 #18
I pretty Rebl2 Aug 31 #29
"I went to the shitty answer machine and it gave me a shitty answer." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 31 #3
You're missing my point, nt lostnfound Aug 31 #4
You both are correct wolfie001 Aug 31 #15
No, they were repeating your point muriel_volestrangler Sep 1 #34
What was your question/prompt? I got an entirely different response from Google. sl8 Aug 31 #5
investigation boelter shooting lostnfound Aug 31 #16
Thanks. sl8 Aug 31 #21
Infowars-prepper-gun-guy anti-gay preacher doesn't fit the profile lostnfound Aug 31 #6
Thank you for this information. Disturbing, and one of the reasons I niyad Aug 31 #7
Agree DarthDem Aug 31 #10
Yep. And what a waste of time having to verify. paleotn Aug 31 #20
As important as better algorithms is what data they train on karynnj Aug 31 #27
True, lots of great uses. An apparent down side is some loss of professional skils? lostnfound Sep 1 #30
Wish a good billionaire could fund a library initiative to make an expanding carefully-trained database for public use lostnfound Sep 1 #32
Yeah, like it's somehow able to sift through all the internet BS and return reality. In many cases, no. paleotn Aug 31 #19
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Aug 31 #11
AI only knows what its fed. And it's feeding on the garbage pile that is social media. paleotn Aug 31 #12
The national media always fades out on these rightwing hit stories viva la Aug 31 #13
Yes, it was mentioned in early articles and yes, it was Democrats targeted karynnj Aug 31 #28
Peter Thiel's greasy hands all over this wolfie001 Aug 31 #14
i engage with AI only minimally barbtries Aug 31 #22
We can tell there was no political agenda based on how the dude looks IronLionZion Aug 31 #23
This is what I got when I expanded the Google prompt Aviation Pro Aug 31 #24
Self delete to consider how I'm saying what I'm saying. But I think you are right. Hekate Aug 31 #25
More evidence that AI is crap. All it knows is what it sucks up from every cesspool on the internet. Ocelot II Aug 31 #26
I've seen some blatantly incorrect things from gen AI recently Renew Deal Sep 1 #35
My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out' TheProle Sep 1 #36
I've successfully used detailed prompts for plenty of deep structured answers. This OP was prompted by 2 concerns. lostnfound Sep 1 #37
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