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Ms. Toad

(37,725 posts)
12. Thank you. I stayed out of (one of) the threads yesterday because I'm tired of the indiscriminate abuse.
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 04:11 PM
Aug 31

My father (and his parents) are/were Nebraska farmers. He's retired now - but most of his income still comes from the farm which is rented and/or crop shared with former neighbors.

I'm pretty sure he has voted in every election once he was eligible to vote - certainly every presidential election. He has never voted for a Republican for national office. (Sometimes there aren't party choices in local elections.) He was Nebraska's first conscientious objector, was kicked out of his family because of it, but by the time I was in middle school my grandfather had come around to my father's way of thinking. He has actively campaigned for (and donated to) Democratic candidates for most of his adult life.

Right out of college, he spent 4 years in a peace-corps type program in the Philippines. He has taken more than decade off from full time farming to devote to social justice causes (world hunger, native american issues, and lobbying Congress on behalf of progressive causes - where being a Nebraska farmer opened doors to a lot of conservative offices he might otherwise not have had access to). That was made possible by a business arrangement with his cousin - in significant part so that the farm would be able to support my father's and the cousin's investment in social justice and world hunger issues.

Once he retired, and was no longer dependent on spending ungodly hours actively tending the farm, he devoted considerable time to restoring native grasses to the pasture across from our house, controlled burns to rid two farms of invasive species, and to sectioning the hill pasture so that it could be more productively used in a manner consistent with land conservation for cattle grazing (don't even suggest it should have been turned into food crops - the land cannot sustain direct production of food because of the terrain and the lack of sufficient water to support crops - the myth that it is always better to use land for direct production of food is one made by people who have not actually spent time farming)

I'm just back from a trip back home. The crops this year are healthier - and, in addition to annual health, are generally more productive per acre than any year in my father's memory. Because of the impact of tariffs - and, ironically the increased production - the per acre income will be one of the lowest in decades.

So, yeah, telling my father (and grandfather) that they are getting what they voted for is ignorant. And direct involvement in farming will end with my father. It is an extremely hard life, often surrounded by people with politics which make day-to-day life emotionally draining. None of the kids in my family will be joining the effort to make sure that people in this country have food to eat. I garden, and support a local CSA. But that's the extent of it.

And - if that isn't enough - Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer. Those painting farmers with an indiscriminate brush should think of everyone they are including in that tar and feather job.

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8 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I'm gonna say "fuck you" to anyone who behaves abusively to others, regardless of profession. RockRaven Aug 31 #1
Grumbling aside, for generations, Americans have been blessed with access to 'cheap food' Attilatheblond Aug 31 #2
I find this a nuanced reply. And TY for sharing your experiences... electric_blue68 Aug 31 #23
When it comes to farmers I'm on the fuck em side. They are doing just fine Autumn Aug 31 #3
Autumn, regardless of how they vote, your comment might apply to corporate farmers... hlthe2b Aug 31 #5
And I'm sure there are a rare amount of people working in ICE that are decent. Autumn Aug 31 #7
Family farmers are being HURT by ICE. I know you aren't that ill-informed. hlthe2b Aug 31 #8
If it bothers you to "bash" them by all means don't bash them . Essy solution.nt Autumn Aug 31 #28
If they bother YOU, then DON'T EAT... Simple as that. hlthe2b Aug 31 #30
THIS times 1000! Thank you, hlthe2b! Attilatheblond Aug 31 #37
We are family farmers. n/t murielm99 Aug 31 #10
Good for you. I am sorry you have to read the stereoypical derisive comments made here... hlthe2b Aug 31 #21
My husband and I are both activists. murielm99 Aug 31 #33
As I just posted while i haven't been back since covid I spent decades buying from our Green Market farmers in NYC... electric_blue68 Aug 31 #27
Thank you for farming! electric_blue68 Aug 31 #44
My part of Kentucky is family farm country. I do not know of any corporate farms yellowdogintexas Aug 31 #13
It most certainly is hard work. I have tried to educate those who don't realize it, but I'm not sure how hlthe2b Aug 31 #14
oh I am sure there are, but my particular area is still family farms yellowdogintexas Aug 31 #16
Not good! driving out family farmers electric_blue68 Aug 31 #29
What part of Kentucky is that? Mysterian Aug 31 #24
Most family farmers are Trump supporters synni Aug 31 #18
Most voting RESIDENTS of rural areas voted for Trump. You have zero statistics or knowledge of how hlthe2b Aug 31 #20
Not as rare as people think. Family farms are 96% of all farms.... Bengus81 Aug 31 #35
Wow. I agree! Oopsie Daisy Aug 31 #42
Thank you, pants. brer cat Aug 31 #4
MAGA farmers are a subset of both farmers and MAGA. LuvLoogie Aug 31 #6
I don't recall ever "bashing" farmers my self, and certainly not family farmers... Wounded Bear Aug 31 #9
I'd still like to see an urban/rural student exchange program like the old foreign exchange student program Attilatheblond Aug 31 #40
Not a bad idea... nt Wounded Bear Aug 31 #41
As a life long NYC'r I've heard as you say "the other side" rural folks bashing city dwellers... electric_blue68 Aug 31 #45
Pass ProfessorGAC Aug 31 #11
Thank you. I stayed out of (one of) the threads yesterday because I'm tired of the indiscriminate abuse. Ms. Toad Aug 31 #12
To you, Ms. Toad, all I have to say is Buddyzbuddy Aug 31 #31
Let's hear it for the coal mine owners too! hunter Aug 31 #15
They chose this disaster with their vote for trump. Blue Ozarks Aug 31 #17
Umm...yeah moosewhisperer Aug 31 #19
The traitor peachpit24 Aug 31 #25
Most of America's cheap food is because of corporate farming JT45242 Aug 31 #22
"High Rates of Suicide, Depression Linked to Farmers' Use of Pesticides" womanofthehills Aug 31 #26
Bailouts from lobbying and they keep voting against us. Blue Full Moon Aug 31 #32
96% of the farms in Illinois are family farms. murielm99 Aug 31 #34
Bashing farmers in general, NO. Bashing farmers who B.See Aug 31 #36
I remember the original Farm Aid nitpicked Aug 31 #38
The bashing is for those that supported Trump JI7 Aug 31 #39
it's not so much "farmer bashing" Skittles Aug 31 #43
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