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TheProle

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36. My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out'
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:14 PM
Sep 1

without consideration of the quality and specificity of prompts. IMO, DU should require anyone posting rage-bait AI answers to include the exact wording of their prompts.

In that spirit, here is mine:

PROMPT: What is the legal consensus on the motives behind the Vance Boelter assassinations of lawmakers

RESPONSE

Legal consensus identifies the Vance Boelter assassination of Minnesota lawmakers as a
politically motivated campaign of terror targeting Democratic officials, although Boelter's specific and precise motives remain under investigation. Federal and state authorities have built a case based on extensive evidence, including Boelter's own writings, which demonstrates premeditation and intent to harm.

Key evidence and investigative findings

Political targets: Authorities determined that Boelter, disguised as a police officer, targeted four Democratic state politicians and their families. This includes the fatal shooting of State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, as well as the non-fatal shooting of State Senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette. Both lawmakers were Democrats.

Writings and planning: Following Boelter's arrest, investigators discovered writings in his home and car that named dozens of other state and federal lawmakers. These documents also revealed a months-long campaign of stalking and preparation, including gathering personal information on his targets.

Stalking and intimidation: The federal complaint against Boelter states he "embarked on a planned campaign of stalking and violence, designed to inflict fear, injure, and kill members of the Minnesota state legislature and their families".

Accused but silent on specifics: While Boelter is the alleged assassin, he has so far denied any links to "Trump stuff or pro life" as his motivation, according to messages he sent from jail. However, he has not specified his actual motivations. Law enforcement has called for political leaders and the public to tone down divisive rhetoric.

Legal and political context


Charges: Boelter has been charged with multiple federal and state crimes, including stalking, murder, and attempted murder. The case is being tried at the federal level first.

Rhetoric and atmosphere: Minnesota's Governor Tim Walz was one of the first to call the event a "politically motivated assassination". The tragedy has sparked widespread discussions among politicians about the rise of political violence and the need to address threatening rhetoric. Leaders from both sides of the aisle have condemned the violence and reaffirmed the importance of being able to "disagree without being disagreeable".

Democracy and safety: The legal consensus views the assassinations as an attack on democratic institutions. Former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords emphasized this point, stating, "An attack against lawmakers is an attack on American democracy itself". The event has also led to heightened security concerns for elected officials across the country.

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Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links) lostnfound Aug 31 #1
The charges are federal because . . . DarthDem Aug 31 #9
Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess Pam Bondi and Kash Patel... lostnfound Sep 1 #31
You're welcome DarthDem Sep 1 #33
Damn TheFarseer Aug 31 #2
It certainly appears that way. niyad Aug 31 #8
Would you be surprised if they were? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Aug 31 #17
Unlikely given how they work and our limited ability to control what the output will be EdmondDantes_ Aug 31 #18
I pretty Rebl2 Aug 31 #29
"I went to the shitty answer machine and it gave me a shitty answer." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 31 #3
You're missing my point, nt lostnfound Aug 31 #4
You both are correct wolfie001 Aug 31 #15
No, they were repeating your point muriel_volestrangler Sep 1 #34
What was your question/prompt? I got an entirely different response from Google. sl8 Aug 31 #5
investigation boelter shooting lostnfound Aug 31 #16
Thanks. sl8 Aug 31 #21
Infowars-prepper-gun-guy anti-gay preacher doesn't fit the profile lostnfound Aug 31 #6
Thank you for this information. Disturbing, and one of the reasons I niyad Aug 31 #7
Agree DarthDem Aug 31 #10
Yep. And what a waste of time having to verify. paleotn Aug 31 #20
As important as better algorithms is what data they train on karynnj Aug 31 #27
True, lots of great uses. An apparent down side is some loss of professional skils? lostnfound Sep 1 #30
Wish a good billionaire could fund a library initiative to make an expanding carefully-trained database for public use lostnfound Sep 1 #32
Yeah, like it's somehow able to sift through all the internet BS and return reality. In many cases, no. paleotn Aug 31 #19
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Aug 31 #11
AI only knows what its fed. And it's feeding on the garbage pile that is social media. paleotn Aug 31 #12
The national media always fades out on these rightwing hit stories viva la Aug 31 #13
Yes, it was mentioned in early articles and yes, it was Democrats targeted karynnj Aug 31 #28
Peter Thiel's greasy hands all over this wolfie001 Aug 31 #14
i engage with AI only minimally barbtries Aug 31 #22
We can tell there was no political agenda based on how the dude looks IronLionZion Aug 31 #23
This is what I got when I expanded the Google prompt Aviation Pro Aug 31 #24
Self delete to consider how I'm saying what I'm saying. But I think you are right. Hekate Aug 31 #25
More evidence that AI is crap. All it knows is what it sucks up from every cesspool on the internet. Ocelot II Aug 31 #26
I've seen some blatantly incorrect things from gen AI recently Renew Deal Sep 1 #35
My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out' TheProle Sep 1 #36
I've successfully used detailed prompts for plenty of deep structured answers. This OP was prompted by 2 concerns. lostnfound Sep 1 #37
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