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hlthe2b

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28. Compared to MAGA Fascists, he most certainly was. I detested him and his post-911 actions horrified me BUT

Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:46 AM

Nov 4

THERE IS NO COMPARISON. And yes, I had to interview him once in the 1990s for a public health issue in Wyoming (at the then R state convention). It was a hair-raising episode, and he was not unexpectedly rude--albeit that was not an issue for me. But after his political career, he did show some significant change in his behavior, expressed viewpoints, and ability to call out the worst that we are dealing with NOW and I can respect that. Like I said, I like to think there was some of the soul of his heart donor influencing him--as well as the more pragmatic Liz. So, yeah, I have both met him and lived through a major portion of his time in politics and afterwards.

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The fact that Trump has somehow "normalized" the Cheneys... [View all] LisaM Nov 4 OP

Right on Easterncedar Nov 4 #1

Cheney knew Bush was a hopeless long time alcoholic and cocaine addict. Irish_Dem Nov 4 #2

Nah, Bush did his job. Further propping up the ruling class. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 4 #31

Bush was a serious alcoholic, and a spoiled, entitled nepo baby. Irish_Dem Nov 4 #32

Fuck Cheney. Yesterday, today, tomorrow. Solly Mack Nov 4 #3

Thank you. LisaM Nov 4 #4

Anyone that can embrace a war criminal doesn't have a problem with Trump. Solly Mack Nov 4 #6

In Cheney's defense The Wizard Nov 4 #5

And yet, he helped create Trump. LisaM Nov 4 #7

+1,000,000 Auggie Nov 4 #15

Trump MAGA The Wizard Nov 4 #23

Kind of like Darth Vader redeeming himself at the end of Return of the Jedi nycbos Nov 4 #18

I forgot about how he faked being a Wyoming resident LisaM Nov 4 #8

Democrats can see shades of gray. Cheney's "first act" deservedly provoked anger, hatred, resentment hlthe2b Nov 4 #9

Even a stopped clock is corect twice a day. niyad Nov 4 #11

Perhaps jfz9580m Nov 4 #19

Your comment is stuck in the Pre-Trump era. There is no comparison. Fascism/authoritarianism vs classical conservatism hlthe2b Nov 4 #26

Dick Cheney was not a classic conservative jfz9580m Nov 4 #27

Compared to MAGA Fascists, he most certainly was. I detested him and his post-911 actions horrified me BUT hlthe2b Nov 4 #28

Well I respect that jfz9580m Nov 4 #29

EXACTLY!!! cheney and company paved the road to the hell in which we niyad Nov 4 #10

He was normalized when he wasn't tried for war crimes n/t leftstreet Nov 4 #12

GW Bush & Dick Cheney are war criminals. I wrote this poem for Bush when he left office: Martin Eden Nov 4 #13

Yes they did. They created this horror intentionally. Clouds Passing Nov 4 #14

I have three Dick Cheney stories that I'll try to post later today or tomorrow .. Bo Zarts Nov 4 #16

My rich cousins used to be next door Tree Lady Nov 4 #20

Dick Cheney was just as bad as Trump. War profiteer, responsible for the disastrous invasion of Iraq, outed a CIA office Martin68 Nov 4 #17

K&R jfz9580m Nov 4 #21

It's a measure of how truly foul Trump is. Mblaze Nov 4 #22

Looking at the pictures of Cheney the only good thing I can say is milestogo Nov 4 #24

He normalized things like "enemy combatant" crimes... CaptainTruth Nov 4 #25

And the failure of members of the Senate and the house to raise an objection, win or lose, was a moral failure of ... pat_k Nov 4 #30

Vice President JD Vance Excitedly Assumes Role of Worst Living Vice President LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #33

I don't think trump normalizes Cheney at all. Cheney, and W are "just" no longer the worst. electric_blue68 Nov 5 #34