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13. Trump loses. Charles Koch is funding attacks against the tariffs

Wed Nov 5, 2025, 11:21 AM

Nov 5

Charles Koch-funded group sues Trump over tariffs, alleging power grab
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/08/new-civil-liberties-alliance-lawsuit-trump-tariffs-china/82996118007/

And yesterday
President Donald Trump is used to battles at the Supreme Court against liberal advocacy groups, but Wednesday’s high-stakes argument over his tariff policy features a very different foe — a legal center funded without public disclosure by some of the country’s wealthiest conservatives.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-foe-in-tariffs-case-a-legal-group-funded-by-conservatives/ar-AA1PLZUf

These tariffs are a GOP civil war battle. My money (pun intended) is on the conservative billionaires that really own the party. The Supremes lose nothing by siding with GOP economic interests. Why back a lame duck POTUS with a novel legal theory when the sugar daddies don't want this policy? They will be around a lot longer than Donny the lame duck dotard.

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Listening to the supreme court hearing about tariffs [View all] drray23 Nov 5 OP

That's encouraging. pandr32 Nov 5 #1

here is hoping they announce a decision soon and not wait until June rurallib Nov 5 #2

Sauer is arguing the case like someone trying to sell a piece of shit car: speaking very fast, playing w/words, LYING. AnotherMother4Peace Nov 5 #3

Good observation. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #5

. dalton99a Nov 5 #8

Looks like the head brain is at odds with the tail brain yonder Nov 5 #58

Incidental? Old Crank Thursday #70

Heh, he is the epitome of Disaffected Nov 5 #12

He argued the immunity case for Trump. Mr.WeRP Nov 5 #39

Yeah, but the authoritarians on the court already wanted to give him immunity so, not a tough nut for him Attilatheblond Nov 5 #44

Same mannerism of Speaker Johnson 2na fisherman Nov 5 #57

I am listening also. I came to DU to post about it, so thanks for doing so. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #4

Good to hear peggysue2 Nov 5 #6

I just hope he blows "the big one"---soon. lastlib Nov 5 #24

Oh good! MSNBC doing some quick analysis. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #7

They went back to Gorsuch questioning. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #9

Gorsuch was "struggling to understand" Sauer's argument & cut through the bullshit w/a concession from Sauer, which AnotherMother4Peace Nov 5 #11

My cable co. dropped MSNBC. multigraincracker Nov 5 #26

That's terrible! I think people should write in to your cable co. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #29

Gray Media. Stock symbol GTN. Frasier Balzov Nov 5 #32

Buckeye Cable is family-owned Glass City Nov 5 #42

welcome to DU RussBLib Nov 5 #49

I live about 100 yards north of Toledo. multigraincracker Nov 5 #64

The Block Family is more-or-less hated in Pittsburgh FakeNoose Thursday #74

I get MSNBC on sling blue, $45 mo. For about 200 channels including MSNBC. Meadowoak Nov 5 #45

Yeap same here. drray23 Nov 5 #63

We watch for free. https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html Nt duhneece Thursday #71

I wouldn't be so confident about THIS supreme court. I think the odds are they will rule in the sociopath's favor, lostincalifornia Nov 5 #10

I am listening to it, and it sounds to me as though they will support T Tumbulu Nov 5 #43

Same here lostincalifornia Nov 5 #65

I just wonder what Trump has in the supremes. I bet some of them are in the Epstein files. Meadowoak Nov 5 #46

They've only enabled his grabbing of more and more power up to this point. CousinIT Thursday #76

Trump loses. Charles Koch is funding attacks against the tariffs bronxiteforever Nov 5 #13

Thanks for the info and context. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #30

Yep. Been saying for a while they will do the right thing here - probably for the wrong reasons. 617Blue Nov 5 #36

Exactly... Woodycall Nov 5 #48

Neal Katyal is arguing against trump's tariffs LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #14

He really is great. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #31

Good News: Trump gets reeled in and the US economy improves, Coldwater Nov 5 #15

Not so. speak easy Nov 5 #37

The economy is already in the crapper. Wednesdays Nov 5 #61

"Gorsuch to Trump Lawyer: If POTUS has "Inherent authority" in Foreign affairs, are there any limits?" AnotherMother4Peace Nov 5 #16

Neal Katyal Is the plaintiff Attorney and Is already kicking ass. We'll see. We're talking tRump's supreme court. nt AnotherMother4Peace Nov 5 #17

Neal is doing great LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #18

This made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #19

Thanks for the smile. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #35

Strangely If Trump loses this case, it will actually be good for him, because it will help the economy. That will help Fil1957 Nov 5 #20

I think its past the point of non return drray23 Nov 5 #21

+1. Prices go up, not down. dalton99a Nov 5 #22

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Crypto is a Ponzi scheme Glass City Nov 5 #50

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You left out ransom! Use case for crypto.... reACTIONary Nov 5 #59

This decision will not be announced until late June Buckeyeblue Thursday #72

Doubting Thomas here. The majority has given Trump so much latitude before, I'll be surprised if they rule against him. surfered Nov 5 #23

They know the hand that feeds them Aviation Pro Nov 5 #40

trump will try to pack the court if he loses. I can hear him whining about how he was bringing jobs back to USA, but Silent Type Nov 5 #25

"Sauer countered by claiming Trump's power to enact tariffs was "a foreign-facing regulation of foreign commerce." Ray Bruns Nov 5 #27

They are trying to help Tramp by saving him from himself. I knew they would. 617Blue Nov 5 #33

I know Sauer can't help the quality of his voice, Grammy23 Nov 5 #34

That would be great if they have to open Congress to try IbogaProject Nov 5 #38

What's not to like with Neal Katyal dropping a truth bomb: tariffs are taxes. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #41

Just a thought, but last night blue wave might have an impact on the court..... ashredux Nov 5 #47

I wonder who it was thought up this tariff bs? Ligyron Nov 5 #51

Peter Navarro is the one that really came up with the Administration's tariff policy after... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #73

Thank you for that. Ligyron Sunday #77

Gee, is SCOTUS starting to read the room? Bluetus Nov 5 #52

In the early 1930s, when there was an actual national emergency Warpy Nov 5 #53

From your lips to the powers that be. Joinfortmill Nov 5 #55

seemed like Alito, Thomas and the other R wingers crud Nov 5 #56

Sauer's voice is so grating.... kentuck Nov 5 #60

I feel like there can be an event that can cause an unraveling. Maybe this is it. Something has to break the Jbraybarten Nov 5 #62

Tariffs are nothing but taxes on the American people, paid by Americans LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #66

He might be too busy trying to figure out... ananda Nov 5 #67

They will slice the baby V850i Nov 5 #68

Sounds like the might well restrict him, but question is what they will allow. His bullying other countries with tariffs Silent Type Thursday #69

The Washington Post has been reporting a lot of skepticism from a majority of the judges. One issue is whether the Martin68 Thursday #75