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Bluetus

(1,898 posts)
36. This goes back a few years
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:13 PM
Nov 6

2019:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/12/nancy-pelosis-renewed-attacks-on-aoc-arent-just-disrespectful-theyre-dangerous

Since that time, they have both had the good sense to not tangle in public. Pelosi learned that AOC could not be bullied, and they are both better off trying to find common ground.

But the essential difference is that Pelosi was from the generations that viewed the job as making deals for votes whereas AOC, Warren, and many others more progressive view the job from the perspective of making lives better for Americans. They may be addressing the same problems and might end up in the same place, but the perspective is entirely different. Personally I prefer the starting point being "What would be very good for Americans?" versus "What kind of deal can we make?"

It is not a zero sum game where what one side gains the other loses. We can invest in things that lift everyone up, and also generate the economic activity to pay the bills. So I think it should start with the ideas, not the budgets.

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I've always admired her... and I continue to do so. QueerDuck Nov 6 #1
In recent years she was often the only adult in the room. * 617Blue Nov 6 #5
She's been treated with such contempt and disrespect, even among our own... it was embarrassing and maddening to see. QueerDuck Nov 6 #6
Kinda like how Joe was treated tintinvotes Nov 6 #10
She is a class act. Thank you Nancy! boston bean Nov 6 #2
Thank you Madam Speaker. * 617Blue Nov 6 #3
Thank you for your service Madam Speaker SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #4
We need a new culture in the Party ... Bluetus Nov 6 #13
Pelosi lives in San Francisco not New York SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #14
She certainly has been right out front directly attacking AOC Bluetus Nov 6 #16
Not the question I asked. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #17
She certainly has weighed in on her opinion of New York politicians, so yes. Bluetus Nov 6 #21
Who did she endorse for mayor and what year? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #23
She is a national politician. She has given her opinions about candidates all over. Bluetus Nov 6 #24
And NYC Mayor is a local office. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #25
I think you took one line out of a thoughtful if not entirely correct comment and grievance shopped? Ilikepurple Nov 6 #27
Because he made a false accusation SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #28
What lie? What was the false accusation? There was no attack in the meaningful sense of the word. Ilikepurple Nov 6 #39
Yes there was SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #40
You could have just asked Bluetus to respect the retirement thread and start a new discussion Ilikepurple Nov 6 #42
I'll respond to people as I like SocialDemocrat61 Friday #44
For the record, I think Bluetus's statement on Pelosi's NYC mayor endorsements is wrong. Ilikepurple Friday #51
Thanks but SocialDemocrat61 Friday #52
He took one line and completely twisted it into something I didn't say. Bluetus Nov 6 #31
This was a thread about Pelosi's retirement SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #38
You attributed to me something I did not say. That is called a STRAW MAN argument. Bluetus Nov 6 #41
You slammed Pelosi for not endorsing Mamdani, that's the straw man SocialDemocrat61 Friday #43
Post removed Post removed Friday #46
You chose to respond to my post SocialDemocrat61 Friday #49
Why Are You Attacking Nancy Pelosi. Cha Nov 6 #19
Am I? Is there anything I said that wasn't true? Bluetus Nov 6 #22
Why are you calling this an attack? Your reply is more of an attack? Ilikepurple Nov 6 #29
Did you write that? leftstreet Nov 6 #30
I wrote it. It is a bit rough, but I hope it is clear enough. Bluetus Nov 6 #33
It's really good leftstreet Nov 6 #35
When has Pelosi criticized AOC? yardwork Nov 6 #32
This goes back a few years Bluetus Nov 6 #36
Nonsense. That's a slanted opinion piece. yardwork Friday #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 6 #34
Thank you Mme. Speaker... for everything. FalloutShelter Nov 6 #7
i assumed she wd step down when her bff mopinko Nov 6 #8
A great and effective leader. themaguffin Nov 6 #9
My thanks to her for the long and good service! MineralMan Nov 6 #11
MAGAts will gladly give up their SNAP bennies and starve for this news. Turbineguy Nov 6 #12
I'll miss her experience and savvy. Torchlight Nov 6 #15
Speaker Pelosi mr715 Nov 6 #18
Congratulations on a Life Time of Staller Cha Nov 6 #20
❤️ underpants Nov 6 #26
We'll meet again struggle4progress Nov 6 #37
Remember when this song was used at the end of Dr. Strangelove? dwayneb Friday #48
Sad to see her go... dwayneb Friday #47
What was your favorite Nancy Pelosi moment? LetMyPeopleVote Friday #50
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