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Wiz Imp

(8,150 posts)
26. MUST READ: explanation for why Jackson did what she did here:
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 10:59 PM
Nov 7
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/190-snap-wtf

Key points here:
As for why Justice Jackson did it, to me, the clue is the last sentence. Had Jackson refused to issue an administrative stay, it’s entirely possible (indeed, she may already have known) that a majority of her colleagues were ready to do it themselves. I still think that this is what happened back in April when the full Court intervened shortly before 1 a.m., without explaining why Justice Alito hadn’t, in the A.A.R.P. Alien Enemies Act case. And from Jackson’s perspective, an administrative stay from the full Court would’ve been worse—almost certainly because it would have been open-ended (that is, it would not have had a deadline). The upshot would’ve been that Judge McConnell’s order could’ve remained frozen indefinitely while the full Court took its time. Yesterday’s grant of a stay in Trump v. Orr, for instance, came 48 days after the Justice Department first sought emergency relief.

Instead, by keeping the case for herself and granting the same relief, in contrast, Justice Jackson was able to directly influence the timing in both the First Circuit and the Supreme Court, at least for now. She nudged the First Circuit (which I expect to rule by the end of the weekend, Monday at the latest); and, assuming that court rules against the Trump administration, she also tied her colleagues’ hands—by having her administrative stay expire 48 hours after the First Circuit rules. Of course, the full Court can extend the administrative stay (and Jackson can do it herself). But this way, at least, she’s putting pressure on everyone—the First Circuit and the full Court—to move very quickly in deciding whether or not Judge McConnell’s orders should be allowed to go into effect. From where I’m sitting, that’s why Justice Jackson, the most vocal critic among the justices of the Court’s behavior in Trump-related emergency applications, ruled herself here—rather than allowing the full Court to overrule her. It drastically increases the odds of the full Supreme Court resolving this issue by the end of next week—one way or the other.

I am, of course, just speculating. But if so, I think it’s both a savvy move from Justice Jackson and a pretty powerful rejoinder to the increasingly noisy (and ugly) criticisms of her behavior from the right. Given the gravity of this issue, it makes all the sense in the world for a justice in Jackson’s position to do whatever she could to ensure that the underlying question (must the USDA fully fund SNAP for November?) is resolved as quickly as possible—even if that first means pausing Judge McConnell’s rulings for a couple of days. If the alternative was a longer pause of McConnell’s rulings, then this was the best-case scenario, at least for now. And regardless, imposing this compromise herself, rather than forcing her colleagues to overrule her, is, to me, a sign of a justice who takes her institutional responsibilities quite seriously, indeed—even when they lead away from the result she might otherwise have preferred if it were entirely up to her.
Imagine the shit that ensues dweller Nov 7 #1
California paid snap..... Lovie777 Nov 7 #2
4 or 5 states paid SNAP funds in full dweller Nov 7 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author choie Nov 7 #18
I read the comments and am now wondering how this is gonna play out..there has to be a good reason Deuxcents Nov 7 #3
It's past time for us to stop choie Nov 7 #22
It 'past time for us to stop thinking we are more compassionate, smarter, more knowledgeable than Jackson. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #67
Speak for yourself BeerBarrelPolka Nov 8 #84
Are you a judge? yardwork Nov 8 #89
Why would she do this? BlueKota Nov 7 #4
See posts 26 and 28 onenote Nov 7 #33
Don't wanna fucking hear it orangecrush Nov 8 #54
A closed mind makes mistakes. She did the best thing under the circumstances. Don't be a closed mind. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #60
Defending evil is never a good look. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #69
Neither Jackson nor I am defending evil. I'm sure Jackson is every bit as compassionate as you are. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #71
Jackson's behavior is shocking, the optics are terrible. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #73
Since you know better, explain how she could have / should have done better. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #75
Personal attacks are a sign of a weak argument. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #78
You made no argument. I made no personal attack. You attacked me as "defending evil". Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #79
There seems to always be a reason angrychair Nov 8 #117
Jackson chose a strict limit of several days TommyT139 Nov 8 #83
TommyT139, thank you! some_of_us_are_sane Nov 8 #109
Calm down. yardwork Nov 8 #90
What the fuck? choie Nov 7 #5
EXACTLY orangecrush Nov 8 #55
Post removed Post removed Nov 8 #61
To quote what TommyT139 explained some_of_us_are_sane Nov 8 #112
This actually seems like business as usual for Supreme Court cases. unblock Nov 7 #6
Exactly, people can stop clutching their pearls. gab13by13 Nov 7 #8
The fastest way to deal with it was to deny the stay BlueKota Nov 7 #9
Exactly. choie Nov 7 #10
Yeah why worry about little kids going without BlueKota Nov 7 #11
if she denied the stay, the administration could immediately go to any other justice and ask for it. onenote Nov 7 #25
Because her job is to interpret the law, not set policy Jose Garcia Nov 7 #38
You show me where in the Constitution it says BlueKota Nov 7 #48
Just bc you are right on this point does not mean that Jackson didn't do the best thing at this stage of the process. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #65
Perhaps you're unaware of what a shut down is? FBaggins Nov 8 #88
and you must not have heard choie Nov 8 #115
Not funds that Congress appropriated for SNAP benefits FBaggins Nov 8 #118
What does that have to do with Jackson's stay? choie Nov 8 #119
It was in the context of BK's argument above FBaggins Nov 8 #122
Black & White thinking usually gives you a less than clear picture Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #29
Thank you. This over reaction business vanlassie Nov 7 #34
Yes. Angry warriors die on the battlefied without helping the end goal. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #66
Condescension is noted. choie Nov 8 #116
Do you need SNAP? choie Nov 7 #14
Exactly BlueKota Nov 7 #17
So you think 6 weeks would be better? Jackson is smarter than you and cut it down to 2 or 3 days. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #68
Post removed Post removed Nov 8 #86
Bookmarking for later. n/t rzemanfl Nov 8 #101
Hopefully there's no point FBaggins Nov 8 #103
November 2025 SNAP is reported to have been paid in full Rocknation Nov 7 #12
and...what? choie Nov 7 #16
Yes, they have. valleyrogue Nov 7 #37
Not in Illinois Beringia Nov 7 #51
People need to calm down Dangling0826 Nov 7 #13
Again that's easy to say BlueKota Nov 7 #15
am currently using snap many states today have released the funds I got mine at noon Dangling0826 Nov 7 #19
I am glad some people got them including you, BlueKota Nov 7 #21
If she did what do you think the full court would do? Dangling0826 Nov 7 #27
That's great for you. choie Nov 7 #23
You are assuming that if Justice Jackson denied the stay gab13by13 Nov 7 #20
No but I read a lot of commentary from lawyers BlueKota Nov 7 #24
"So why are the courts, especially the SC, continuing to let him..." In It to Win It Nov 7 #31
Why do they keep granting the appeals? BlueKota Nov 7 #41
Unlike SCOTUS, circuit courts don't have a say in whether to hear or consider appeals or not In It to Win It Nov 7 #42
There's that black and white thinking again Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #32
I have read the Constitution multiple times. BlueKota Nov 7 #43
If you've read the constitution, then you know how appeals work Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #44
You show me where in the Constitution it says BlueKota Nov 7 #47
Go read the constitution again Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #49
Never mind. BlueKota Nov 8 #53
The tangerine tyrant wants you to get emotional. Emotion blinds people and makes them ineffective Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #76
A suggestion that I found helps me is volunteering EdmondDantes_ Nov 8 #98
Thank you that is a great suggestion. BlueKota Nov 8 #106
For me at least, donating is harder because I don't see the good in the short term EdmondDantes_ Nov 8 #110
Fair enough Fiendish Thingy Nov 8 #104
Thank you for understanding. BlueKota Nov 8 #107
She couldn't have "ended it tonight". onenote Nov 7 #35
Are you certain about that, Blue? vanlassie Nov 7 #36
He has no authority under the Constitution BlueKota Nov 7 #45
It's procedural, a technicality. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #40
MUST READ: explanation for why Jackson did what she did here: Wiz Imp Nov 7 #26
Thank you. As I posted above, I don't expect most DUers to understand the intricacies of SCOTUS procedure onenote Nov 7 #28
Again the Constitution does not give the President BlueKota Nov 7 #50
Everybody here knows what you're saying is true. YOU need to understand that the question is not about the constitution bluestarone Nov 8 #108
I apologize. BlueKota Nov 8 #111
Hey, i fully understand. I myself gets so pissed at how things are going here. bluestarone Nov 8 #114
Thanks for posting that Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #39
My outrage is because people are starving and BlueKota Nov 7 #46
Post removed Post removed Nov 7 #52
I GET REAL FUCKING ARROGANT orangecrush Nov 8 #58
Your "arrogance" (your word) won't fix the problem. Jackson did what she had to do to prevent it from being worse. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #62
This is our country, not yours BeerBarrelPolka Nov 8 #87
Now that I've stopped hyperventilating orangecrush Nov 8 #100
Thank you. yardwork Nov 8 #91
Thanks. Echoing this point: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 8 #93
The Hill's explanation... allegorical oracle Nov 8 #95
Given that it was Jackson, I knew there would be some issue like this behind it. Scrivener7 Nov 8 #102
A somewhat legal explanation is provided here dweller Nov 7 #30
THERE IS NO FUCKING EXPLANATON orangecrush Nov 8 #56
yeh dweller Nov 8 #57
Simplicity is no replacement for Jackson's sophisticated operation of the legal machinery to prevent worse events. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #63
If she is so sophisticated and smart, couldn't she come up with a solution that did not make Irish_Dem Nov 8 #70
She is constrained by the law. I'm sure she has a much deeper understanding of it that I or you do. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #72
She works for the American people and needs to explain herself. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #74
Jackson is aligning against those who starve children. She is NOT aligning with those who do. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #82
You live in a country which is a constitutional monarchy, the British King is your head of state. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #80
Do not distract by telling me about the monarchy I do not want. I'm well aware of it. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #81
I agree that Jackson is doing her best, but this seems more of a tactical decision than legal. Ilikepurple Nov 8 #85
My amateur sense is that Jackson knows that a majority of the Court is against us. yardwork Nov 8 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #64
There is no explanation for this sort of sentiment, other than ignorance. tritsofme Nov 8 #94
Let the adults in the room handle these decisions. W_HAMILTON Nov 8 #96
I understand now orangecrush Nov 8 #97
Thank you for your understanding. And this is why it is up to us. W_HAMILTON Nov 8 #105
I agree orangecrush Nov 8 #113
... CatWoman Nov 8 #59
America really hates its poor. RandySF Nov 8 #77
I get the legal reasoning behind it Samael13 Nov 8 #99
How long will people go without food before there's widespread rioting and looting? NickB79 Nov 8 #120
Of course she did the right thing. Had the crime brothers tavernier Nov 8 #121
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